Cable vs. Legion

Started by don't shiv3 pages

Originally posted by Rewmac
Cable full potential would do something I suppose. But just read Cable & Deadpool #34 he has some nice feats...
The word "Godlike" doesn't really goes for Cable.

Why??

-He got his X-Gene turned off (That shot of Silver Surfer wouldn't effect a Godlike character)

-If we are talking about a Godlike character that would be 100 times more powerful than the currently shown most powerful Cable which is Full-Potential Cable who fought SS.

-Vulcan is only Omega. And he is supposly more powerful than Cable

-Classic Beyonder was Godlike. And Cable was nowhere his level.

-Cable is still Alpha. Wasn't really stated that he is Omega. But it is true we don't know his limits. (Techno-Virus stuff sucks sometimes)

Don't get me wrong. I would the most happy man on Earth if Cable would achieved Godlike state or even Omega state (comic statements and feats)

Burnt offering specifically vs SS.

It is written by Irene that Cable has not reached full potential, but is getting there. It is also written that when Cable reaches full potential burn down is a go.

[interesting "burning out" can take forever, just look at Nate Grey who started burning out from issue 5 [when he checked out of AOA Uni]

Cable is an Omega, since Nate Grey and Stryfe were. Remeber they are all one and the same.

Cable isn't Omega. But there is a possibility for it. But it hasn't been stated. Stryfe really was an Omega. That's how he totally owned Apocalypse.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Cable isn't Omega. But there is a possibility for it. But it hasn't been stated. Stryfe really was an Omega. That's how he totally owned Apocalypse.

When was it stated that Stryfe or Nate were Omegas?

I haven't said Nate is Omega. But Stryfe is. Look around the net for bios or get handbooks he is Omega in TK and TP.

Originally posted by Rewmac
I haven't said Nate is Omega. But Stryfe is. Look around the net for bios or get handbooks he is Omega in TK and TP.

I have and Stryfe has never been stated as being Omega. Until he is, he isn't.

Okay. Well. You might have been looking the wrong place...Nevermind. I know he is Omega. And my knowledge on Cable and friends are good enough.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Okay. Well. You might have been looking the wrong place...Nevermind. I know he is Omega. And my knowledge on Cable and friends are good enough.

Can you post a link to a bio that states it or an issue # to a comic that does?

Every comic database states : Stryfe can use the full potential of Cable's powers. And just tell me one thing??

Where are Cable's limits? It was never shown. Because of the Techno-Virus. Stryfe is supposly Omega (unlimited potential) level character, most possibly. That's why he pimp slapped Apoc.

I didn't believe it either. But then I read it somewhere back in the days when the whole Cable stuff started for me...

But you are right. It hasn't been stated in a comic. So I don't know why I'm being stupid again 😕

Sorry I've been a dick. Had a hard day...

As for Nate.

He isn't an Omega Level mutant as far as I'm concerned. But when he is angry I don't see his limits. He can create illusions, lift objects 20-30 tons, control minds, project TK blasts and so. But Shaman Nate is something very different. About Shaman Nate we can say he hasn't really got the limits of his powers. He never runs out of juice.

And his TK is strong as hell. He easily blasted a whole into another planet. Or for controlling he let a blind woman who didn't have eyes see. Supposly she didn't know what "seeing" is.

This is quite vague...but here's some food for thought:

Who's the Alpha and who's the Omega?

As for the fight Legion FTW.

But look at the Cable there. That Cable isn't comparable to the current version of him. Do you have some other appearences by Legion??? I mean non-Cable...I never really looked into the character.

Originally posted by Rewmac
But look at the Cable there. That Cable isn't comparable to the current version of him. Do you have some other appearences by Legion??? I mean non-Cable...I never really looked into the character.

Huh? 😕 That's Onslaught...I was just refering to his vague Omega comment.

As for Legion...here's 3 scans...that I scanned earlier for a different thread...I'll get you more...if you want.

I have more if you want....one where he time travels and screws up history...and catches the attention of 7 Watchers.

Thanks, but I know who Onlsaught is 😄 😄

I'm getting intrested....

Gimme more, gimme more... 😄

Originally posted by Rewmac
Thanks, but I know who Onlsaught is 😄 😄

I'm getting intrested....

Gimme more, gimme more... 😄 [/QUOTE]

I know you know who he is...just read his comment to Cable. Even though it's quite vague....it does imply a lot.

Here's the incident...

A bit more info on him.

I'll put more up later...got to finish some homework first.

As for the Onslaught thing...I just thought his comment was intriguing though quite vague.

More stuff

Originally posted by Rewmac
Every comic database states : Stryfe can use the full potential of Cable's powers. And just tell me one thing??

Where are Cable's limits? It was never shown. Because of the Techno-Virus. Stryfe is supposly Omega (unlimited potential) level character, most possibly. That's why he pimp slapped Apoc.

I didn't believe it either. But then I read it somewhere back in the days when the whole Cable stuff started for me...

But you are right. It hasn't been stated in a comic. So I don't know why I'm being stupid again 😕

Sorry I've been a dick. Had a hard day...

Not a problem. I just didn't think he had officially be classified as Omega yet. It wouldn't surprise me if he eventually was, though. He's extremely powerful.

He never was stated. I just checked all my comics. But here is my theory :

Cable is extremely powerful with the Techno-Virus in him, which reduces his power and concentration. Stryfe doesn't have TV. And we don't know if Cable's mutant powers have limits. Stryfe just used TK,TP in a brute way, the way evil people use it. And if Cable hasn' got limits why wouldn't Stryfe have?

Nate Grey has the same powerlevel as Dark Phoenix (An Omega).

Cable and Stryfe are the same as Nate.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Nate Grey has the same powerlevel as Dark Phoenix (An Omega).

Cable and Stryfe are the same as Nate.

This is from wikipedia on Nate Grey. I think this is where people are thinking that Nate Grey/Cable/Stryfe are all Omega level.

Nate Grey (X-Man) and Nathan Christopher Summers (Cable) are unlikely brothers: both are descended from the genetic material of Scott Summers and Jean Grey. Nate was grown in a laboratory in an alternate dimension by Sinister from the genes of Scott and Jean, while Cable was born to Scott and Madelyne Pryor (a clone of Jean also created by Mr. Sinister), infected with a techno-organic virus, and raised in the future. As a result, their genetic and psychic profiles are identical, which can cause a painful feedback to both parties when they interact, although Nate is much younger (having done no time travel) and much more powerful (Cable would be at Nate's power level, but must constantly devote his mental resources to fighting the Techno-Organic virus).

...Moreover, Nate and Cable hail from completely different backgrounds. The juxtaposition of the two characters allowed writers to address issues of identity and nature versus nurture and explore the complex nature of family relationships in the X-Men world. When Cable was de-aged in Cable and Deadpool, he greatly resembled Nate Grey.

[edit] Powers and abilities
X-Man is an Omega-level mutant with incredible telepathic and telekinetic abilities. He can use his telepathy to read minds and even read residual thought imprints left on objects touched by people (psychometry), communicate with others by broadcasting his thoughts, control minds, create illusions by altering the perceptions of others, fire psionic blasts that can scramble an opponents thought processess (causing the victim either intense pain, or rendering them unconscious), project his mind into the astral plane and even pull the astral projections of other telepaths into the physical world, and sense dimensional rifts or anomalies. His telekinesis allows him to move, levitate, and manipulate matter by using his thoughts, create defensive shields by focusing his telekinetic energies around himself and others, and channel his psychic powers into explosive psionic force blasts. By levitating himself, he can fly at amazing speeds, and he can phase through solid matter by mentally shifting his molecules around another object's as he moves forward. His mental fine motor skills are so acute that he can mentally manipulate dust particles and water vapor to refract lightwaves and create holograms. He also has creative uses of his powers such as using his telekinesis to channel the Earth's magnetic field through the electrocurrent of his brain and generate devastating electromagnetic pulses. X-Man even learned that he could use his telekinesis to transport himself into other dimensions by mentally bending the dimensional barriers that separate one reality from another.