people who have had the biggest impact ever

personally he may of had some problems but professionally he was good

Originally posted by bardock
how did clinton have a negative effect?

I agree with RR..quit the bush bashing...you say bush gave our country a bad name? Wow I like how everyone throughout the world knew about clinton lieing on public tv about him and monica lewinski to.

leaders in foriegn nations thought it was funny we where spending so much time on clintons scandal.did you know that most presidents have had mistresses.jefferson had kids out of wedlock.marilyn monroe had an affiar with the kennedys

Heres the the difference though. all of those presidents did somthing great and spectacular for this country. they left an inspiration for others to follow. Clinton sold away our national parks man. The statue of liberty isnt owned by the United states anymore, bet you diddnt know that shit did you? you can thank Clinton for that. Mr bill would tell you what ever you wanted to hear,for you to be on his side. Clinton had the opertunity to put an end to Osama. He also stood by while over sea ebassy's were attacked. Have you noticed that when Clinton was in office, all the celebrties were for Clinton, did you also notice they were always staying at the white house. Celberties were always being asked to the white house. Now that Bush is in office, the stars dont get recognized or asked to stay in lincolns bedroom.

honestly i think this county started loosing its faith for itself after Watergate and the whole thing w/ nixon, i think after that point really the public isnt as patriotic as it use to be

and i can tell you after this "election" is over, and i just have a feeling bush lost, we get to kerry and after 4 years we're gonna see how much he sucks too, its just a big cycle of hating the president

yeah. i agree right on with that. I know Bush is going to lose. Kerry isnt going to do jack, but jack shit. Bush isnt a great choice eigther, but i think if he has another four years, he can set the country in a prosperous path again, and atleast leave the country in good standings for the next leader to take the helm. I think it will be a long time before we see another good president.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
I'd like to take anyone who could answer the question "Who has had the biggest impact on the world" with "I dunno - but I do love George Lucas and some bands" outside and hold them underwater till I was certain that the gene pool would remain unpolluted by their stain forever more.

Thats just me tho. Im picky.

I'd like to do the same to fools who only half-read posts, then make up the rest to suit their smarmy remarks.

Jesus +
Hitler -
Napoleon -
Einstein +
Benjamin Franklin +
Joanna Dark +
Cleopatra +-
Leonardo daVinci +
Ghandi +
(i changed my mind, Osama wasnt that important) Sheakspeare +

oh man i totally forgot Ghandi, oh man, oopps

usually in this country anything negative that happens is always blammed on the president, and it just seems a hell of alot of shit happened while this dude was in so naturally hes the easiest person to place the blame on, clinton, well nothing really bad happened in the world while he was in office besides a stain on a dress

you are right, though Bush isnt really a good president (in my humble opinion)...thats why i didnt put any president or Osama on my list. I'd like to put Santos Dumont, a brazilian who invented the airplane, but he didnt cause too much impact...

theres only one president on my list and i do think he impacted not only our nation but leading others in example, Abe Lincoln, that took balls to do what he did to proclaim slavery in the north over and all slaves free was a big thing and soon other countries followed

sure, that was very important, because it passed USA boundaries in some way (but a lot of ppl put presidents or other persons who were only important to their own country). But, in my point of view there were people who did more "noble" or worse things. But everyone has different opinions, and they must be respected....

i suppose you are right, i wonder though, if one could say Harry Truman due to his decision to drop the atom bomb, that did much to the world, and was his decision that dawned the atomic age

i forgot about this 😮 yeah, sure some presidents can start disasters or be good to humanity (and, at some point, all of those ppl are leaders, Hitler, Napoleon...)

If it were not for George Washingtons brilliance or inspiration. we would not have America today, i think America has made a profound impact on the world in both postive and negative ways.That is why i listed him, yeah Presidents can be a biased choice in this matter,but sometimes there choices not only effect the country thet represent,but also have repercusions that can effect the world and history. Not many have done this, but few have.

Aristotle
Galen
Andreas Vesalius

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i did forget about the three philosophers, Plato Aristotle and Socrates i think thats how his name is spelled

Anne Frank??? +

Ceaser+
The Great+
Hitler-
Gundi+
Hanninble+
Joe Louis+ might as well add one sports star.
Khan-
The Hun-
And Wasthington +