Animal Rights

Animals are not important. To begin at the right end it might be better to think of the people.

Anyone that supports Animal rights cannot possibly experiments conducted on animals. Yes, there have been animal experiment testing in the past. So, if you opose animals getting hurt....than you defetenly don't aprove of those experiments. Example: Sending a monkey into space.

i do think it's ok to kill to EAT, and i stress to eat. But to look fashionable, NO. I do like the way animal prints clothes look, but not the animal print thats Actually made from the animal itself. Years ago, they needed animals for clothing, we no longer have to have that. It's pointless and I think it's great your wanting to starts an animal rights club.

Anyone that's against killing animals for fashion simple hasn't worn Mink before. ❌ diva

I hate PETA 😐

I don't like people who wear fur... But there's a point at which this whole "animal rights" thing has gone far enough. Case in point, I was reading a conversation between some idiot lady and another guy at a forum... The guy was asking what to do with his goldfish, 'cos it was sick or something. So the lady said "you should find a nice river or pond to set it free in!", to which he responded and explained that he would really just be killing the fish without seeing it... So then the lady went on this huge "I'd rather die free than live caged!" rant. And she went on and on about how ALL animals should be wild and how nobody should force their pets to live with them.. That was bizarre.

yah sure....I'd love to leave my dogs out in the wild.....aka on the streets.

Where they can be hit by a car, become disease ridden, and then starve to death.

I hate PITA too...

Exactly. And these PETA people are insane, I found a page on their website telling you to mail a jar of dog shit to Iams for some reason. 🙄

🤨 PETA people are crazy, they take everything too far...

I don't believe in killing animals simply for their fur...have any of you ever seen a chinchilla? They're one of the cutest animals there are, but they're hunted to make fur coats. And they're TINY animals, about the size of a ferret. So how many d'you think is needed to make a single coat? A hell of a lot.

Also, on something that I'm shocked hasn't been brought up here as much...animal testing. I used to be on the debate team at my school, and one of the debates I did was on animal testing. I researched this for weeks, and the stuff I found out about it was enough to make it so that I will never, EVER buy anything that has been tested on animals. If anyone wants me to, I can try and find my notes from that today and post some of the stuff I found out.

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I found something on another forum, somebody had posted an email from a less known animal rights group called "The Fund 4 Horses" or something. (actually, from what I've heard they're fairly infamous on all the horse/animal related internet forums) Basically it was a page long rant about some bill that was being introduced that was going to ban the practice of horse slaughter for meat sale overseas. Parts of it were in all caps, in short they were just telling you to post this everywhere you could and to flood your representative with email, letters, phone calls, etc... That was stupid. It's a shame so many of these places resort to things like that, the idea is a good one, but how they actually expect that to work... I don't know.

I'll see if I can dig up my animal research notes today, then...they're from two years ago so it shall be interesting to see if I can remember where I put them, though ✅

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I supplied that link to PETA so that you all could see what is behind the animal-rights movement. I do not necessarily agree with everything that they say or do as in every good body there is bound to be a few nutters. ( extremists ). This is not to say that the greatest number of PETA members don't have their hearts in the right place; as they do.

Of course humans should not be cruel to humans but by supporting this cause you are not barred from caring about cruelty to animals too.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
she went on and on about how ALL animals should be wild and how nobody should force their pets to live with them.. That was bizarre.

It's not that bizarre - I would never have a domesticated animal as a pet. The idea of castrating animals to make them docile enough to bully into a relationship with humans is whats bizarre; it just doesnt seem that way because so many people do it.

peta is almost militant sometimes

Originally posted by Mr Zero
This whole "leather is fine because we eat the cow" argument hold no water. The carcases of the poor little furry creatures that go to make up those rich old ladies coats don't go to waste. They end up in mulch fed to the animals you DO eat & the cows that make your leather shoes.

You either condone slaughter or you dont - half way ethics are no ethics at all.

but cows are demesticated, they serve no purpose besides to be born, live, and then eaten.
fuzzy coat animals live in the wild and they serve a purpose to keep vermin and stuff down so they dont eep into our cities and towns.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
It's not that bizarre - I would never have a domesticated animal as a pet. The idea of castrating animals to make them docile enough to bully into a relationship with humans is whats bizarre; it just doesnt seem that way because so many people do it.

bizarre as you see it, its probably in the interest of the animal to live with you, rather than in the wild. a dog that is dimesticated will live almost twice as long as one in the wild. a demesticated dog gets free food instead of having to run after stuff and kill it.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
It's not that bizarre - I would never have a domesticated animal as a pet. The idea of castrating animals to make them docile enough to bully into a relationship with humans is whats bizarre; it just doesnt seem that way because so many people do it.

I find that odd too. I'd never castrate my pet, that's just wrong. So what if they scratch up the couch and hump everything that moves? It'd be fun watching it.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I hate PETA 😐

I don't like people who wear fur... But there's a point at which this whole "animal rights" thing has gone far enough. Case in point, I was reading a conversation between some idiot lady and another guy at a forum... The guy was asking what to do with his goldfish, 'cos it was sick or something. So the lady said "you should find a nice river or pond to set it free in!", to which he responded and explained that he would really just be killing the fish without seeing it... So then the lady went on this huge "I'd rather die free than live caged!" rant. And she went on and on about how ALL animals should be wild and how nobody should force their pets to live with them.. That was bizarre.

thats a bit over the edge.
and she definatly needs to get out alittle more, cause alot of people dont make their pets...well their cats, live with them. my cat lived outside, had no collar, i just put food out for him, and if he was around id pet him. everyday, there he was scrathing at the door for me to give him attention, and that was the most wild cat id ever seen, one of my neighbors actually called animal control to pick him up cause they thought he was a feral cat, we had to go pick him up at the shelter.

That's awesome. I have a relative whose cat is let out everyday, and she usually returns with a dead bird or mouse, and even a bat once! I love watching animals hunt, and cats are exceptional at it.

Darth> I agree with you. Yes, we should treat animals decently. We’re supposed to be a civilised society.
Humans have canine teeth – hence we’re meant to eat meat. So if people want to be vegetarians, let them.
But I suppose some people find “A cause” and then support it blindly (such as, say, anti-abortionism), without really thinking any further.
I’m first and foremost concerned with people – I worry more about war, starvation and poverty than I do animal rights.

Papa> Oh, I’m sure most Animal Right Activists have their heart in the right place. I’d just rather they cared for PEOPLE first… Sentience does make a difference I think.