Death Star or Star Forge?

A.) If thats the case then why did the Death Star come so close to Yavin before firing. They could have done it faster or better. The DS range is not unlimited, it should be but its not.

B) Unlike Endor and the second DS, the SF and the Unknown world depend on each other. The Unknown world is the homeplanet of hte Rakatan, and damn important for them. Its only natural that you would protect yourr two greatest assets from destruction instead of only one.

C) The thing was visible near a freaking star from a huge distance. The SF is HUGE. It filling a Window means nothing to me. Besides in the last battle you can see the Republic capitol ships firing at the Star Forge. They fire at a small part of the Star Forge, and they look small compared to that. When you see the entire SF they hardly appear anymore. So what does this mean? The thing is incredibly big.

Originally posted by Fishy
A.) If thats the case then why did the Death Star come so close to Yavin before firing. They could have done it faster or better. The DS range is not unlimited, it should be but its not.

Either that or the DS came out of Hyperspace on the wrong side of the planet in their haste to get the rebels.

Originally posted by Fishy
A.) If thats the case then why did the Death Star come so close to Yavin before firing. They could have done it faster or better. The DS range is not unlimited, it should be but its not.

They didn't fly close to Yavin 4 they did fly around Yavin because that planet was in their line of fire. I don't know if they COULD have shot from far more distance if they had entered the Yavin system from another direction. But I don't think the DS has a max. range of 500,000 miles. A Star Destroyer can attack the surface of a planet from a geostationary orbit (something like 20,000 miles from the surface) and the DS has MUCH more firepower compared to that.

B) Unlike Endor and the second DS, the SF and the Unknown world depend on each other. The Unknown world is the homeplanet of hte Rakatan, and damn important for them. Its only natural that you would protect yourr two greatest assets from destruction instead of only one.

Why wouldn't you use 2 shields in this case ? And in case this is only one shield it would be like a corridor in space between the Rakatan world and the SF with the perimeter of the Rakatan world which also can be easily avoided.

C) The thing was visible near a freaking star from a huge distance. The SF is HUGE. It filling a Window means nothing to me. Besides in the last battle you can see the Republic capitol ships firing at the Star Forge. They fire at a small part of the Star Forge, and they look small compared to that. When you see the entire SF they hardly appear anymore. So what does this mean? The thing is incredibly big.

The Republics ships aren't really "big". Watch the "Harbinger" in KotoR II at Peragus.
And I was just talking about "distance" here. If the moved near enough that the SF filled the window before being affected by the shield around the SF they have to be FAR closer than 500,000 miles to that thing unless you want to tell me that this thing is bigger than a planet.

I don't know if it is.. Probably not, and your right those ships are probably not that big but they are still pretty big and there has to be room to grow. I just don't know enough about to the shield but I have to say its far more likely that the DS will win in this incredibly biased unfair situation.

This thread is already pointless. Let's not seek to make it a big pile of speculation and back 'n' forth. The Star Forge is not a proper match up to the Death Star. If anything, a better match up would be other superweapons and planet devastors/destroyers, not an immobile factory.

You have to realize that the Star Forge was created by an ancient race, only referred to as "The Builders" that spoke an odd form of Selkath, and the fact that a building that advanced was built before the republic was even formed is awe-inspiring. Yes the death star fires an enormous powerful beam, but the Star Forge has a force field around it which repels any attack, and also shuts down all electronical systems in its area, so if the death star even tried to attack it, it would merely repel the attack and begin construction of more ships. But you have to remember, the star forge doesnt JUST make ships, it can make droids, and even weapons and troops, so its not only making ships, but the crew of those ships, and when the starforge is operating at 200 percent, then there is no way the Death star would survive, the massive fleet would envelop the death star and wipe it from the face of the galaxy.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Well, if they battled - the Death Star would win.

But if I had an option as to which one I would have in my employ, I would prefer the Star Forge. The Death Star is undeniably stronger in terms of firepower - but the Star Forge can create massive and strong fleets.

Originally posted by LordJaundice
You have to realize that the Star Forge was created by an ancient race, only referred to as "The Builders" that spoke an odd form of Selkath, and the fact that a building that advanced was built before the republic was even formed is awe-inspiring. Yes the death star fires an enormous powerful beam, but the Star Forge has a force field around it which repels any attack, and also shuts down all electronical systems in its area, so if the death star even tried to attack it, it would merely repel the attack and begin construction of more ships. But you have to remember, the star forge doesnt JUST make ships, it can make droids, and even weapons and troops, so its not only making ships, but the crew of those ships, and when the starforge is operating at 200 percent, then there is no way the Death star would survive, the massive fleet would envelop the death star and wipe it from the face of the galaxy.

The SF did NOT create men, or troops, just ships, snubfighters and droids. The Rakata did NOT speak Selkath, they had their own language, but had to understand the language of their slaves, which the Selkath were.

The Death Star only needs roughly 20 seconds to fire, and could fire outside of the shield and still destroy the SF. The Ebon Hawk was floating much closer than the DS would need to be in order to fire. And the Ebon hawk took out a Sith patrol and floated around for another minute before that, all BEFORE the shield took effect.

That same shield does not REPEL fire, much less the Death Star's firepower, it only shuts down electronic systems, and again, it seems to take a few moments to take effect, even at the close range that the Ebon hawk was.

And it would take time, even for the Star Forge, to produce the ships, man them, launch them, and actually take the time it would take to destroy the Death Star.

There is one problem the Deathstar and all of the ships would be stopped by that force field the star forge has, the Deathstar would have to get in range

Also it's STARWARS do the MotherF**king laws of physics even exist anymore?!

Not really, and the SF's shield/force-field, would take a while to affect the Death Star.

Look at the Ebon Hawk, took out a Sith patrol adn floated randomly for a minute beforehand, THEn the shields took affect.

Not to mention the fact that the Death Star wouldn't have to be remotely that close to the Star Forge to fire on it. One shot KO.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
This thread is already pointless. Let's not seek to make it a big pile of speculation and back 'n' forth. The Star Forge is not a proper match up to the Death Star. If anything, a better match up would be other superweapons and planet devastors/destroyers, not an immobile factory.

Read that and let this thread die.

People keep restarting it, can't imagine why.

That same sickness that makes people skip other people's posts.

Bastards.