Is Vader under Sidious control?

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Is Vader under Sidious control?

Ok Vader is sidious's apprentice but i seen a pic of vader strapped into some sort of torture thingy in front of palpatine!!!so maybe Vader is force to be a sith? your taugths?

id say that scene could well have been just as anakin first donned the vader suit. the restraints may be to control his initial reaction to his new form.
just a suggestion

LOL a torture thingy..

by this point in the film, anakin and palps have made real buddy buddy like..

anakin is now his apprentice.. and he's saved anakin's life... or at least what's left of it.

then again.. the old man and vader could just be into some kinky shit instead. ala "ooh your light saber's so big"

Yeah, that's when he's awakened after being given bionic legs and a respirator.
Anakin becomes a Sith because of his own decisions....

I'd say yes......yes he is, in some form, why else would he say,
"I MUST obay my master"

i think the answer to this question is painfully obvious.

You seem to be asking two questions in one post.
1) Is Anakin/Vader under the control of his master Darth Sidious?

A) Yes, without question. He is his apprentice and has fallen to the dark side of the force(which actually controls both of them I think)

2) Is Palpatine forcing Vader to be a Sith?

A) No, Anakin chooses to become a sith. His choices are made on his own, despite the fact that Palpatine has really been controlling most of the events of the galaxy and the war from behind the scenes.

thanks FC thats kinda what i was looking for!

the pic your talking abought is were he becomes vader

xam is that a real pic of the duel or was that made?

^^^def home made i think but pretty damn cool

Indeed very cool, although I think a blue v blue duel would suck.....

thats a good job if home made

^^^ I thought that too at first but it is something we have never seen and adds a Jedi v Jedi feel.... I still would have liked Anakin use a Red saber

Well, I guess Anakin has to have a blue sabre, since Obi-Wan gives Luke a blue sabre in ANH.

i took it off of here somewhere i dont know who made it but here enjoy!!

Vader is addictide to space crack, and palpatines the dealer, of course he MUST obey his master, he's a crack head! 😮‍💨

I think the reason behind the line "I must obey my master" is because Vader knows first hand how powerful Palp is, and how easily (or, you know what I mean) he completely dismembered an entire galaxy. It isn't completely loyalty or else he wouldn't have asked Luke to join him so they could kill Palpatine. It isn't some sort of device that controls him because Anakin is good with tech stuff so he could defuse it or whatever. It is purely fear that causes his obedience, I'm sure if Luke had given off the impression that he would destroy the Emperor and join Vader, it would have turned out different in ROTJ. Plus if you look at it closely, Vader doesn't do many things to take a shot at killing Luke, everything is immobilizing him or capturing him alive and whatnot, so he doesn't just serve the Emperor as a patsy.

also because he says what is thy bidding my master in empire to show that he embraces the emperior as his master.

What I was thinking was is vader kissing MAJOR Ass to palp like"oh im so scared of you" or is it really his choice like "oh ill go to the dark side to piss off obi1"

That is a real pic from the duel. The architecture and the actors are real, I don't know about the background.