Private Schooling

Started by Phoenix3 pages
Originally posted by ladygrim
i dont see why some schools are beta than other as it is the students in them that make it wot it is

no it isn't - it is the teachers and resources. You can be a brilliant child, but if you have crappy resources and a teacher who has to look after and teach thirty other pupils, you are unlikely to reach the standars of a '8-a-class' private school

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes they should, but they are not; we are already throwing VAST amounts of cash- that make 100 million look like small change- at the problem to try and solve it, without success so far, and making scapegoats of private education for failures of the state system is just not on. Fact is, we have to make the best of what we can and private institutions offer opportunities and benefits that would NOT be distributed elsewhere if they ceased- they would simply stop being there.

if thats everyone's attitude then nothing will ever change. You can't just sit there and say, well, thats life.

Life's not fair. But if no-one tries to make it fair than it never will be!

Originally posted by Papaumau
Here's where it is spent in Britain !

From an annual GDP of around two Trillion pounds what is spent on state education is a spit in a bucket !

I say if the rich want private schooling let them have it and let them pay for it....That seems simple to me !

yeh, but they shouldn't get tax breaks.

Hey, I heard that if you earn over 100, 000 pounds a year, the government is going to push a bill to double your taxes! ((not sure if its true, didn't see it on the news, heard it at the student union))

Originally posted by ladygrim
parents are to blame most of the time neway .....

thats just not true. Everyone is too ready to blame the parents - I know parents who try their absolute hardest and their kids go off the rails just because they can and because its cool

Originally posted by Phoenix
yeh, but they shouldn't get tax breaks.

Hey, I heard that if you earn over 100, 000 pounds a year, the government is going to push a bill to double your taxes! ((not sure if its true, didn't see it on the news, heard it at the student union))

But without the tax breaks on their profit they would charge more to make the same net profits, this would mean less people could afford it and they would require state education, thus putting a further strain on the state education, the money saved by the tax breaks would NOT go into improving the state education.

Originally posted by Phoenix
yeh, but they shouldn't get tax breaks.

Hey, I heard that if you earn over 100, 000 pounds a year, the government is going to push a bill to double your taxes! ((not sure if its true, didn't see it on the news, heard it at the student union))

Yeah Phoe....

I think it was the Liberal Democrats promising to put the highest tax bracket up to 50% from 40% so that there could a be a better amount of the wealth getting down to the poorest in this country.

Britain...is the third richest country in the world but it has the poorest state pensions for the elderly in Europe.

The thing about the VERY rich paying 50% of their taxable income is that even after that tax is taken away they will STILL be filthy rich, but a tiny improvement that this extra would make would be a lot to the people in poverty at the bottom.

We must remember that the richest 10 per-cent of the population pay the smallest amount of tax pro-rata to the amount they earn because they are able to hide most of their incomes in off-shore accounts and in tax-breaks and in ways to avoid paying tax at all on large amounts of their income.

Pap and Phoe> It was the Lib Dems who plan to do that(if they ever get in power). Our school had some politicians in today, so we go tto listen to them answer questions for an hour.

However, that was to fund universities, not comprehensives.

Originally posted by Phoenix
I wouldn't mind them getting tax breaks if they truly were charity schools, only giving places to the best and brightest of Britain - but they give them to privelidged bastards, who get to waste an outstounding education just because they're rich.

I would have loved to be schooled privately, and my parents really wanted to send me, but we couldn't afford it and another girl beat me to a scholarship. I worked hard at comprehensive, but private schooled kids don't recognise what a wonderful oppurtunity they have. INstead of going to a private school with one teacher per 8 children, I went to a comprehensive, and I was lucky to have one teacher per 38 children

so am i a "privelidged bastard"

i have been in a private school since i started school, and i DO realise how lucky i am to have parents who able to afford to pay the fees for not only me, but my brother as well.

you can't just BUY a place at the school, you have to pass the entrance exam (which was pretty tough) and get certain grades at gcse etc.

but one of the problems with going to private school is that unis are having to pick out the really genuinely intelligent student and it is hard when private schools are pushing the students into getting all As when they may not really be A grade students....so getting As from a state school is considered of more value

An absolutely miniscule minority of pupils will do well no matter how bad the system, but the great number of average pupils are kept illiterate by the comprehensive system when they could actually be making something of themselves.