Is Ghandi in Hell?

That's why its not worth getting mad about. Everyone has different ideas, so we look for whatever common ground there is.

that should read absence of god is

but any christian should know not to say whether ghandi resides in hell or not because that is passing judgment on someone

i'll kill you.

did no one read my retort on the bible page?

Sense, I didn't get your response......

But what I said doesn't really need anything added or changed because that's the way life works, from what I've seen.

Yes, The Lord Jesus Christ was a Jew and so were his disciples however he did not die for the Jews to leave a eternal life in Heaven. He died for those who believe in him as the Son of God, the Savior of Mankind.

Christ's mission on Earth was to become the King of the Jews on Heaven, while the Jews believed that he'd be an earthly king. However they were wrong and this was not the Messiah that they believe that came and walked on this earth, two thousand years ago! The Jews put their own King on that cross. It wasn't Pontius Pilate and the Roman Empire. It were the Jews that chanted out Jesus' name when Pilate asked the Jewish population what to do with him. So it is quite clear.

However there were many Jews after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ that came to know the Lord.

The reason why I disagree that 'He died for us all' is because it seems that you don't need to come to the Lord and proclaim that he is the Son of God and you have a personal relationship and he's the mediator inbetween you and the Lord.

However they were wrong and this was not the Messiah that they believe that came and walked on this earth, two thousand years ago! The Jews put their own King on that cross. It wasn't Pontius Pilate and the Roman Empire. It were the Jews that chanted out Jesus' name when Pilate asked the Jewish population what to do with him. So it is quite clear

According to Jewish Rabbis that I have spoken to say that the man that the Christians believe in wasn't the true Son of God.

still it doesnt change the fact of my last post

who's ghandi? 😮

Hmmm, simply put Gandhi was a visionary and pacifist, a good man, who spent his life trying to help his people and nation gain Independence, as well as just helping. Of course that doesn't do justice to him, and there are a lot of good books and site on the subject. This one is one of the more interesting ones:

http://www.mkgandhi.org/biography/index.htm

Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
As I remember from my time in sunday school, Jesus died for the sins of the world. Jesus died for the sins of the world, not just the sins of christians and Jews. God knew the sinful nature of humans when he sent Jesus, why would he send his only son to save the souls of a small number of believers of christianity, when he loves all his creation? Would he not want all of his creation saved? especially if we are supposedly made in his image?

And what is this about God not tolerating sin? He supposedly forgives sin all the time. Why can you confess and ask for forgiveness from some pedophile preist and have god forgive you, but the idea we cold ask god face to face for forgiveness after we die is out of the question?

I dont have any idea what you were trying to say in part II... so im not going to even try respond to that.

1. He does. He cannot force us to accept his dogma, as that would be evil.
2. If you ask for forgiveness, and mean it, then you get it. If at the end of your life you don't ask for forgiveness, then after it, he still won't force you to accept his dogma.
3. I was showing that heretical documents were stupid. If they have a giant cross, then they're stupid.

Originally posted by finti
well if this god of yours is omnipotent and master of all creation, what was the purpose of creating hell. If he was truly the master of all creation he would have handled evil and hell from the start.
If this god is so good and loving, and heaven was a place as christians define it. God wouldnt have tolerated a hell, he just would have a heaven for his followers and nothing for the rest.

So unjust people should get no punishment? How would he "handle" evil without damaging free will, and love, which are the reason he created us.

So unjust people should get no punishment?

How would he "handle" evil without damaging free will, and love, which are the reason he created us.

Finti- Free will came first, why you ask?

Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
I'm waiting for it.

The "one new man" is mentioned in Ephesians 2:15:

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,
even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;
for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace"

Originally posted by Jury
The "one new man" is mentioned in Ephesians 2:15:

[b]Having abolished in his flesh the enmity,
even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;
for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace" [/B]

Oh, well I still don't think that quote makes what you were saying earlier make any sense to me.

The one new man is:

Ephesians 5:23 "For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body."

One head (Christ), one body (the church) , one new man in the sight of God.

Since the law of God requires that people are to be put to death for the sins they themselves have committed:

Deuteronomy 24:16 "Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall children be put to death for their fathers; a person shall be put to death for his own sin."

It would be unlawful for anyone to suffer death for the sin of others and vice versa. Hence, Christ made the Church of Christ His body, to fulfill the requirement of God's law. When He did this, it is understood that He assumed the position and responsibilities as Head of His body, the Church.

I'm sure glad that that is enought proof for you to be satisfied... good luck with that.

And I still think that when i hear things like "Jesus died on the cross for the sins of man" from the small handful of times I attend service they are meaning that jesus did in fact die for the sins of man. If Jesus were real, I'm sure that he would be considered in a different category than mortal men as far as whether they can die to pay for the sins of others.... I think you are applying laws made for men towards god himeself in your arguement. But, whatever man... I personally think that if you buy into the whole eternity thing and whatever it would be important for you to take another look at that...