Superman Prime Versus Juggernaught[smilie]death[/smilie]

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
And beat him senseless? You say that, yet you don't even at least have a clue where it happened? It was in the Marvel vs. DC crossover, and Superman basically got a cheapshot on Juggernaut, did his little boyscout speech, and left.

Did I not say I didn't know where it happened? I believe that was made clear by my comment. I don't remember where every fight happens, there have been so many damn crossovers. [/B][/QUOTE]

Actually it wasn't that clear that you said that you didn't know what happened, and if I interpreted it wrong, then I apologize. And there was only one crossover that I know of with Superman and Juggernaut in the same comic, and it was very short.

And if he does have telepathic abilities, then that puts him above Juggernaut easily. And reality warping, if it worked for Onslaught then it may work for SP. And like a said, he won't knock him senseless, that's physically impossible, but, he would knock him all over the place like War did.

War? Is that a version of Superman or something? Haven't read him in ages. I just think Juggernaut is over-rated. I like him and all, but I hate that 'nothing can stop the Juggernaut' crap. The X-Men keep finding ways to stop him, Thor and Superman and the like far outclass any member and even all of the X-Men, so logic *yes I know it's comics lol* says Juggernaut can be stopped. It's like a politician saying 'I will not raise taxes' or something. Of course that's what they SAY. Doesn't make it so.

War was Hulk when his power was augmented with Celestial armor by Apocalypes. We know Juggernaut's not totally unbeatable or unstoppable, but it's true that Juggernaut movement can't be stopped by physical means. And, all that you mention was said in the Juggernaut vs. Hulk thread, in great detail. It's long as hell, but worth checking out though. Plenty of good facts and opinions brought up.

Yeah I've been looking at that one. I still don't get the argument though, he has been stopped when he's moving. He is knocked backwards by Thor when Juggernaut is coming towards him. He may not be able to be literally 'stopped in his tracks', but he can be propelled backwards.

So why did Apocalypse augment Hulk? That sounds contrary to Apocalypse's desires.

Oh wait, I take that back. Spider-Man stopped him in his tracks via covering him in cement. I believe that's how it happened, I didn't actually read that issue.

It was when Hulk was separated from Banner if I remember, if I'm wrong, someone correct me. He figured he could control him. ANd he kind've did for a while, before Hulk ripped off the armor and hopped off at the end.

Yes, he was pushed bck by Thor, not too surprising since it was Thor most powerful and feared attack, but he did start to walk through it though. And Spider-Man tricked him into falling into the cement before it hardened. That's not exactly stopping his foward movement. He has to be able to start walking foward before it takes effect.

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
I just think Juggernaut is over-rated.

Y'know, this is the only board I've found that even gives Juggernaut credit. Every other board I've visited rank him as like a poor man's Colossus with the brains of swarm of flies and that's on a good day. It all stems from Superman fandom. "If Superman's a million times stronger than Hulk and Hulk beat Onslaught and Onslaught beat Juggernaut" kind of stuff.

Yeah, people here actually have some facts on Juggernaut, and if they don't, someone will give them the facts real quick. I like Juggernaut's character, but I'll only vote in his favor if he's against someone who can't really get past his powers. I stay unbiased about it.

I didn't read the Spider-man issue, so I didn't know he hadn't 'started walking' yet lol. As for Juggernaut, I do acknowledge his great strength, far superior to Colossus. But he's not Thor. Strength-wise yes, but power-wise no. Battle's about more than just strength.

And who said Superman was 'a million times stronger than Hulk'? That's pretty ridiculous. It's neck and neck according to both companies.

It was an exaggeration. They usually say Hulk would have to reach the very upper limits of his rage to compare to Superman's strength.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It was an exaggeration. They usually say Hulk would have to reach the very upper limits of his rage to compare to Superman's strength.

There was a battle between the two, and it took about three days of fighting for Hulk to knock Superman back. Afterwhich Hulk (having reverted to Banner) had a heart attack.

would anyone care to list a couple of the comics where Superman Prime makes an appearance?

I JUST started collecting the 1,000,000 comics....and I'm sure he makes an appearance in #4 of one of the comics i picked up, but in general, i'd like to pick up more comics about Superman Prime.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It was an exaggeration. They usually say Hulk would have to reach the very upper limits of his rage to compare to Superman's strength.

Well that's understandable considering Superman's power source is the sun, which is always there, while Hulk's power source is rage, which is not always there. Unless he's in a traffic jam or waiting in line at the post office. Then his strength would be immeasurable!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wrathofachilles
[B]I didn't read the Spider-man issue, so I didn't know he hadn't 'started walking' yet lol. As for Juggernaut, I do acknowledge his great strength, far superior to Colossus. But he's not Thor. Strength-wise yes, but power-wise no. Battle's about more than just strength.

Strength wise? Sorry chap, not even close. Juggernaut's not even as strong as She-Hulk. Although he might be more invunerable than both of them combined. Anyway, i think Batman has a much better chance at finishing juggernaut than superman. He'd up and find that crystal and takes Juggy's power away. That's what it takes, finesse, not brute strength.

Originally posted by Evangel94
If it's juggernaut's pure durabillity vs Superman Prime's physical strength and powers, no bfr, no plot device introduced to make superman win, no writer that was a fan of superman when he was young and always wanted to write superman, no cheap tactic, no internet forum boys who will pick apart a post and fight you down to the very last single detail of the most minut irrelevant topic, and no crazy fanboys screaming because they feel that they have a right to decide what happens and how it happens...then

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Yes, Juggernaut's durability cannot be overcome by superman prime.

[EDIT] If you dare pick apart this post and try to argue with me on the stupid retarded details of anything then I will hunt you down and murder you 😒.

Well seeing as how War Hulk beat the crap out of Juggernaut and knocked him out im pretty sure Superman Prime could do it seeing as how he is Superman hundreds of time stronger. No contest on this one not to mention if he needed to he has a GL ring and a sword that can warp reality.

He is most certainly stronger than She-Hulk. There are tons of characters stronger than She-Hulk. And saying Batman can beat Juggernaut is like saying Spider-Man can beat the Living Tribunal. Batman cannot do a damn thing. People need to understand he is NOT capable of top-tier status. He's not going to just happen to find the Cytorrak gem and take it. Besides, it's not like Juggernaut wears it around his neck. Superman Prime destroys Juggernaut, plain and simple. Batman runs like a little girl and realizes it took almost 70 years before he figured out he sucks.

juggernaut has his stenght and invinciblilty, but supess has more strength (yay I spelled strenght right), and a variety of other powers

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
He is most certainly stronger than She-Hulk. There are tons of characters stronger than She-Hulk. And saying Batman can beat Juggernaut is like saying Spider-Man can beat the Living Tribunal. Batman cannot do a damn thing. People need to understand he is NOT capable of top-tier status. He's not going to just happen to find the Cytorrak gem and take it. Besides, it's not like Juggernaut wears it around his neck. Superman Prime destroys Juggernaut, plain and simple. Batman runs like a little girl and realizes it took almost 70 years before he figured out he sucks.

Actually yeah, he'd just up and find it.

Superbooby beat Juggs in a crossover. and those don't count

how would he just find the gem might i ask?