Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
why are you using this dumb example still, go to rotten dot com and look up shotgun suicide, thats what'd happen when someone that strong hits bats in the face, period.

Spiderman hurts his fist on superman, I accept that, but bats can take a punch in the face fromhim, stupid point, you don't believe that.

though 🙄
What does exaustion have to do with his armor?Oh yea bat's armor works on how powerful his opponent is, is that a bat-power, or a writer power.

Sarcasm to make yourself superior, keep it up.
🙂

Yeah he sure cant seem to accept it that Batman cant take a punch in the face against spidey.At least other people I have debated in the past have acknowledged that before and usually at least tried to get around that by saying that Batman would be too prepared for spidey to get that close to him and they at least could accept it that Batman cant take a punch to the face from spidey.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
No it was a villan.

Since you love such shitty examples.

Spiderman beat firelord, have a nice day. 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
And how he uses almost no effort.

ummm no it looked like he was trying alright...especially since he admitted that if they overwhelmed him he'd be finished...

Originally posted by willRules
Spidey is stronger and faster than bane

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
whats this have to do with you being wrong with your calcualtion.

how is my calculation wrong? batman hits has hard as two cars exerting force against eachother...and you're saying one car can do more damage...lol....

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Prove it, from a spiderman haters point of view, you can't.

Jinzin, I'm not the only one who thinks this, you use shitty examples, and biased scans. Trust me you cant spell crap writing, the examples put up discredit themselves, and you think I'm getting sloppy. This sad rehash, you've been doing from the getgo, is tired, and I'm waiting to not argue for both sides.

Batman beat superman: batman fanboy argument, can't explain it, its a yes he can argument, the worst of its kind...

😂

you're so hipocritical it's ridiculous....

I've already proven how spiderman had outside circumstances to help him...if you trule elieve he can beat firelord straight up in a fight mano y mano, you have no right to call anyone a fanboy around here....

I simply fought fire with fire by using an example of batman beating someone who's a cosmic threat...while discarding HOW he did it...the same thing you did with firelord....

I do however, ask you once again as you've not been able to give me one decent reason thus far...how are my scans biased? HOW? tell me how?
I give my reasoning for why a character can do what I think the character can do and then support it with pics....I've shown fights from beginning to end with absolutely no ommisions....yet my scans are biased in your opinion...HOW?

answer the question as you have failed to do so, so many times before....

there is crap writing and then there is unwillingness to accept a character as he/she has been given to you...batman's been a character who BECAUSE OF HIS SUIT is able to take super human amounts of punishment....but because it's not boding well for our argument you deem it crap writing.....crap writing is opinionated and subject to the reader's opinion....UNLESS dc o marvel comes out with a guide to discard feats and issues due to crap writing that EXCUSE (and that's all it really is, since it fails as a convincing argument from any aspect... "i don't like it it didn't happen"😉 does not afford you a win....

someone shows a pic of spiderman hitting supes when supes is depowered by red sun radiation but fails to mention it....funny how you don't get all over him for showing an ACTUALLY bias scan huh?

in any case if you wanna go by crossovers...spiderman loses horribly....batman beat hulk, captain america, and carnage face to face AND without prep....a task spiderman has yet to accomplish without outside circumstances or help of some sort....

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Yet we got to explain it to you again that thats sloppy writing by the writers because just like in the real world spidey would easily beat kingpin but didnt in the comics due to sloppy writing,he only loses to daredevil because of sloppy writing as well.In the real world that doesnt happen because spidey is way too quick for daredevil.Spiderman when he punches, hits 10x times harder than batman when he's not holding anything back.batman would not be able to handle one punch from spidey where spideys superhuman strength will be no match for batman when he trys to hurt Batman.

eat this...When someone argues that they have seen evidence of something but that the evidence doesn't count because that character "shouldn't be able to do that" they need to re-think the premise of thier conclusion. A characters abilities are based on what he or she demonstrates he or she can do, not on what someone thought they could do at one time.

so spiderman's stronger than darksied, wonder woman and her amozons...and (scoff) superman now?!?!?! 😱

pffffft 😂

Originally posted by K3VIL
End of debate.
Do you see that fanboys?
The Bat is down.
1...2...3...OUT!
Strike.
Goal.
Shoot and Score.
Bane can lift around 3tons when powered by his serum, Spidey lifts 10 tons.
Who's the winner?
I've read somone arguing of Batman dodgin sniper rifles bullets.What's next?He'll stop them in mid air with telekinesis and fly at mach 10 like Neo?

but batman dodges bullets all the freakin time...😕

guess you missed my explaination for HOW batman got beat by bane huh?

They always do.....which is nothing surprising....

"Thats exactly what batman is to super people. A normal human. "
This is exactly the kind of thought and the reason why those super people have fallen at the hands of batman...

"Aquaman is a founding member too. You think anyone will give him a win against supes for example out of water?"

Wonder Woman is a founding member and she was a former leader of the JLA as well...batman is a founding member and he has also the been the leader of the JLA....

"So does Iron Fist and he isn't faster than Spidey."

But Iron Fist is the better fighter

"So Batman is like Neo now?"

No batman is not like Neo....But he dodged those bullets alla Neo....in order words he dodged those bullets like neo in the first Matrix movie..

"He is. Not because he has more skill. But because the speed difference is laughable and the strength issue also. And durability? lets not go there."

eh????🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Parker
He is a norman human in the fact that he has no special superhuman powers.He has the skill of a ninja.True Ninjas can do things that most people cant.but again they are human with no special superhuman powers.again as someone else mentioned earlier,he is like 40x faster than a human and as I mentioned before,can easily dodge machine gun fire.That being the case,Batman would NOT actually be able to see him coming or follow his footsteps.

YOOO....apology accepted
But what do have to say to batman dodgeing sniper fire....and machine guns or hasn't batman ever done this before.... Spiderman is fast but fact of the matter is....batman is going to see him coming... remember now you boy is not speed demon...

Definetely a guy who is living in denial that spidey would easily beat Bats.The fact that he cant acknowledge that it was simply crappy writing proves that.fact-Batman is a just normal human being with no super powers.Fact-spidey has superhuman powers and a punch by a mere human to the face to him is no more than just a flick of a finger to our face.In a real world in those circumstances,spidey beats bats in no time flat.

You forget one small fact...let just add this one...Batman is a normal human...but a normal human that eats people with superhuman strength...durability....speed for launch....I suppose any normal human can do all this...

Originally posted by Jinzin
carwreck.......I've already stated this over and over...a decent martial artist can put more force into a solid punch or kick than exerted during a CARWRECK...it's not just logic...its a PROVEN FACT...they even did a damn test for it on the discovery channel for gods sakes...pffft. batman's fully capible an has punched through brick/concrete walls.... guess you missed that argument too huh?

Jinzin they are just going to say that you are lying either this or they are just going to say that a human is incapable of this...and Never mind the fact that this was done by two renowed martial artist

Originally posted by Jinzin
spidey's waaaay too fast for him yet he's able to bring down an amazon who's not only faster, but stronger than spidey as well....hmmmmmm

Well Jinzin they are going to say that the Amazon is no where the strength and speed of spiderman....inevitably ignoring the fact that amazons are augmented via magic..

yeah anyone who can take it to supergirl and have on the recieving end of an ass beating is clearly no where NEAR spiderman's league...🙄

you'd think he was hulk killer humanoid's brother or something...

Originally posted by jinzin
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[QUOTE=4355157]Originally posted by jinzin
[B]you're so hipocritical it's ridiculous....

try me

[QUOTE=4355157]Originally posted by jinzin
[B]I've already proven how spiderman had outside circumstances to help him...if you trule elieve he can beat firelord straight up in a fight mano y mano, you have no right to call anyone a fanboy around here....

I don't think he can beat firelord, haven't you been listening, my arguments are misleading to you, I have different opinions, and you just want to argue.

Originally posted by jinzin
I simply fought fire with fire by using an example of batman beating someone who's a cosmic threat...while discarding HOW he did it...the same thing you did with firelord....

Uhhhhhhhhh, I don't think he can beat firelord. I'm going by you believing everything you write with no logic. Funny how you wait till I log off to respond.

Originally posted by jinzin
I do however, ask you once again as you've not been able to give me one decent reason thus far...how are my scans biased? HOW? tell me how?

EVveryone thinks you are, they are very selective.

Originally posted by jinzin
answer the question as you have failed to do so, so many times before....

Everyone thinks your scans are selective, because you show them with out explaining why, and its a page that involves the opponent at his worst.

Originally posted by jinzin
there is crap writing and then there is unwillingness to accept a character as he/she has been given to you...batman's been a character who BECAUSE OF HIS SUIT is able to take super human amounts of punishment....but because it's not boding well for our argument you deem it crap writing.....crap writing is opinionated and subject to the reader's opinion....UNLESS dc o marvel comes out with a guide to discard feats and issues due to crap writing that EXCUSE (and that's all it really is, since it fails as a convincing argument from any aspect... "i don't like it it didn't happen"😉 does not afford you a win....

He takes a few stabs doesn't he, I like it so it can happen argument, is why I don't like when people believe in everything that is written, seeing as they write it for you to read it, not to be accurate, duh.

Originally posted by jinzin
someone shows a pic of spiderman hitting supes when supes is depowered by red sun radiation but fails to mention it....funny how you don't get all over him for showing an ACTUALLY bias scan huh?

I very much think thats stupid, whobdamanog showed the pic to mock you. Seeing as I've said that spiderman hurts himself on supes body, but bats can take hits from a po'ed one in the face is stupid, I told you that, the work discredits one another.

Fact is you really dispute none of my claims, on how Spiderman would lose hand2 hand, you ignore it and post a pic with no explanation. I've gotten no reason, anything Bats does Spidey does better physically, and that includes rolling with blows. You haven't disproved any of my logic because you CAN'T, you've shown pics proving bats can take punishment, I agree, but you never proved me wrong. Your tendencies to go to irrelevancy is annoying at times.

The mockery you use makes you sound more immature and really only hurts your credit sorry. Just like merc I've stop putting effort in responses, that linger with insults and mockery, you are no different.

Originally posted by jinzin
in any case if you wanna go by crossovers...spiderman loses horribly....batman beat hulk, captain america, and carnage face to face AND without prep....a task spiderman has yet to accomplish without outside circumstances or help of some sort....

Bats gadgets are an outside circumstance, because they are outside of him, you've already agreed, how using a lighter to set one of them on fire would be fine.

I've already given you the hulk lowdown, and this is showing how much you believe in horrible sources, unless you want to convince me that cap beats spiderman, but I'll beat you on that another time.

See that neat thing I did with the quotes: spanking you in style, I had to have some fun. 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
how is my calculation wrong? batman hits has hard as two cars exerting force against eachother...and you're saying one car can do more damage...lol....

Wrong, the damage is on the victim IN THE CAR, a person getting hit by a car directly is much more fatal, do you understand now? 🙂

Originally posted by Jinzin
yeah anyone who can take it to supergirl and have on the recieving end of an ass beating is clearly no where NEAR spiderman's league...

you'd think he was hulk killer humanoid's brother or something...

I hear ya...

and never minding that...the person has stuff that help him or her or it to survive such a beating...

Originally posted by K3VIL
Spiderman VS Firelord was one of the crappiest fights ever seen.
A guy that can travel in space, and be exposed to stellar heat being K.O.ed from a 10 tons lifter guy.FL can engage physical combat with SS and force him to go all out.

I agree, that was a mockery, nothing else. 😉

<<<<<"I don't think he can beat firelord, haven't you been listening, my arguments are misleading to you, I have different opinions, and you just want to argue.:>>>>

well that's what these board are here for.....🙄

<<<<"Uhhhhhhhhh, I don't think he can beat firelord. I'm going by you believing everything you write with no logic. Funny how you wait till I log off to respond.">>>>

I ummmm do support it with logic....just because you have trouble following trains of thought really doesn't mean your sense of logic overwhelms mine....it pretty much means the opposite actually...
stating I have better logic...because I have shown to...is JUST LIKE me stating batman is able to take a class 10 punch without armor because he's shown to....

<<<<"EVveryone thinks you are, they are very selective.">>>>>

not everyone.....MANY SPIDEY FANS do.....but not everyone...again now you're just saying "the pics are bias because....because...THEY ARE SO THERE!" all this talk about logic and you still can't explain how or why the pics are bias....

<<<"Everyone thinks your scans are selective, because you show them with out explaining why, and its a page that involves the opponent at his worst.">>>>

so they're selective because biased spidey fan think they are? pffft yeah that's about the best damn logic I've ever seen! 😱
🙄 the opponents aren't at their worst (that would imply they've been weakened or sick in some way)...they are as they've been presented...get over it...

<<<"He takes a few stabs doesn't he, I like it so it can happen argument, is why I don't like when people believe in everything that is written, seeing as they write it for you to read it, not to be accurate, duh.">>>>

more like...HE'S DONE IT....OFTEN.....SO IT CAN HAPPEN....argument....like I said if you don't like how comics are written don't read em...go make your own.....

<<<<"I very much think thats stupid, whobdamanog showed the pic to mock you. Seeing as I've said that spiderman hurts himself on supes body, but bats can take hits from a po'ed one in the face is stupid, I told you that, the work discredits one another.">>>>

he took it with his suit on...what part of that don't you understand?

<<<"Fact is you really dispute none of my claims, on how Spiderman would lose hand2 hand, you ignore it and post a pic with no explanation. I've gotten no reason, anything Bats does Spidey does better physically, and that includes rolling with blows. You haven't disproved any of my logic because you CAN'T, you've shown pics proving bats can take punishment, I agree, but you never proved me wrong. Your tendencies to go to irrelevancy is annoying at times.">>>>

your "CLAIMS" are opinionated and I'm shooting down your pathetic opinions down left and right....thank you very much....spidey rolls with blows better than bats? really? since when? since he had every style of formal training that batman has had? 😂 what logic? you have opinions that's it....

<<<"The mockery you use makes you sound more immature and really only hurts your credit sorry. Just like merc I've stop putting effort in responses, that linger with insults and mockery, you are no different.">>>>

but it's okay when whob does it? riiiiiiight.....

<<<<<"Bats gadgets are an outside circumstance, because they are outside of him, you've already agreed, how using a lighter to set one of them on fire would be fine.">>>>

you obviously don't understand the concept of outside circumstances...spiderman doesn't have buildings dropping on villains and gas stations blowing up as a regular part of his arsenal....batman DOES however have gadgets as a part of his.....

<<<"I've already given you the hulk lowdown, and this is showing how much you believe in horrible sources, unless you want to convince me that cap beats spiderman, but I'll beat you on that another time. ">>>>

you've given me nothing but a "lowdown" you couldn't even back up with proof...AND HAVE YET TO AT THAT......I would say spiderman has a great shot at beating cap.....but in terms of FEATS he has yet to do so....cap however doesn't have to say the same about spidey....😂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Wrong, the damage is on the victim IN THE CAR, a person getting hit by a car directly is much more fatal, do you understand now? 🙂

martial artists exert more force than what's exerted in car wrecks (the test in question had nothing to do with people inside the car) now you're just confused.....well it certainly supports my theory on your inability to follow streams of thought...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
See that neat thing I did with the quotes: spanking you in style, I had to have some fun. 🙂

riiight that's what you're doin...🙄

I have a question...Why is it that all the feats that batman has done is considered crap writing by you guys...is it because batman is just a normal human and cannot do the stuff that he is written to do....is it because his feats outweighs those of spiderman and on top of that he is just a normal human....is it because he has no super powers and still beat the living day lights out of people stronger or as strong as spiderman...well......