I think batman losses to spiderman. The same way captain america should lose. Batman is defintiely greater than captain america. His strength comes from training like ryu hayabusa. So if people argue captain america can beat spiderman with his bs serum then batman could as well. Batman hangs with the goddamn justice league bitches and without any serum.
Originally posted by B.A
Its called PIS which this forum will not use.
actaully it not pis. DD done it every single encounter. it more pis that DD was unable to react in the instances then vice vera. also DD hit spiderman in that fight. And he rolled with that assault as seen later, by the fact they keep fighting.
Originally posted by B.A
But we know Spiderman holds back. So it would be CIS.If we went by holding back then yeah Batman can get wins but if this is no holding back Spiderman moves to fast and one shots him.
It be strength he holds back in not speed.
also he has atatcked DD before while not holding back with no advail.
yes spiderman wins, but batman can and will react to his movements.
I will have to find the scan. But got proof of him not being that fast?
They do if it connects.
Like Flash he punches someone so fast it produces class 100 fists. Siderman with his strength as well and speed would kill someone. So he has to slow it down.
In fact i think I have a scan of a comic where someone states they have to slow down so they can hold back in strength.
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Here Invincible admits that he can't move as fast when he holds back. Different company or not. The science of it holds.
If Mohamed Ali punches a child in the face he would knock them out. Now if he had to hold back he would have to slow himself down because the speed is part of the thing that causes damage.