wolverine vs colossus

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus57 pages

The notion that Thor, Count Nefaria, Hulk, Namor, Thanos etc. do not even begin to approach Colossus in terms of piercing durability is laughable.

As a matter of fact Stilt, didn't we have a thread about Colossus' piercing durability a few months ago that proved Colossus has far from a clean history of being pierced?

If Wolverine can cut Colossus with a glancing blow (and he did)

If Colossus is afraid of Wolverine being able to cut through his skin to the bone (and he is)

And if brittle ass broken Adamantium can stab right through his skin (and it has)

Then what the hell is left to talk about here? 😕

That said, both sides have massive conviction in this debate and it all comes down to preference until we see total and undeniable proof one way or the other I guess.

IF Wolvie can cut Colossus (which is the more likely of the two scenarios given both histories).. He takes this.
IF for some odd reason he can't, he'll lose.

It's that simple. 😐

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Here it is, props to snoop:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20durablity/ColossustakingWolverinedown.jpg

He's cut Cain's armor 😈 But the privilege of piercing his skin has only one mutant - Feral 😂

Thanks. Then I remembered it correctly.

In the past I've argued that this is proof of Logan being unable to cut Colossus but my stance has changed since last year.

That's closer to Wolverine leaving Colossus with superficial damage (For example such as when he left paper cuts on Thor's face.) than it is Wolverine failing to damage Colossus at all.

It's pretty obvious that if he tried currently, he'd succeed. I'd be shocked if he didn't.

Colossus has never had to stand up to a full on blow from Wolverine. Logan grazed him when he was under mind control and the narration said his claws scored Colossus hide... which being the equivalent of scratch is exactly what a glancing blow should do, and would do to anyone else regardless of their durability. It even said in the narration that Colossus was no match for Adamantium... trying to turn that feat into an proof of the opposite of what it show cases is pretty funny.

Anyway, we'll see in the coming months with Wolverine Goes to Hell, when Colossus throws down with a demon possessed Wolverine vessel.

if a demon is possesing him then he would be more powerful.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if a demon is possesing him then he would be more powerful.

Everyone got their facepalms ready?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wasn't he shot in the face too? That was a hail of bullets, I find it hard to believe they didn't hit exposed areas. And it should be noted that Wolverine's cut through that chainmail AND Thor's skin.

You're talking about a single instance, right? He resisted bullets on several occasions. And you said that none of the guys I listed were close to Colossus in piercing durability department, so I'm still waiting for some proof...

nope...that hail of bullets did not hit his face

look at the aftereffect...there's trails of smoke from where the bullets hit him (chest, and shoulders) ...yet none from his face

also, single instance of not....I do not recall colossus EVER being pierced by bullets...do you?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
if a demon is possesing him then he would be more powerful.

Lol.

Not at all. It depends on what time of possession his under. If the Demon simply gains control over Wolverine's mind, that would not make him any more powerful than he already is.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'd be shocked if he didn't.
you always tend to be shocked by what ACTUALLY happens in comics, as opposed to what happens in your imagination

Logan already attacked big C with his claw and Colossus rewarded him by punching him through a wall for his efforts. And that was before big C was enhanced from Magneto molding his body.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The notion that Thor, Count Nefaria, Hulk, Namor, Thanos etc. do not even begin to approach Colossus in terms of piercing durability is laughable.

As a matter of fact Stilt, didn't we have a thread about Colossus' piercing durability a few months ago that proved Colossus has far from a clean history of being pierced?

Exactly.

We did ✅

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanks. Then I remembered it correctly.

In the past I've argued that this is proof of Logan being unable to cut Colossus but my stance has changed since last year.

That's closer to Wolverine leaving Colossus with superficial damage (For example such as when he left paper cuts on Thor's face.) than it is Wolverine failing to damage Colossus at all.

It's pretty obvious that if he tried currently, he'd succeed. I'd be shocked if he didn't.

You're welcome.

One glancing hit under mind control. If it really were a proof that Logan's not able to cut Piotr, then I guess he can't eviscerate Daredevil either.

Originally posted by jinzin
Everyone got their facepalms ready?

If you saw what he posts in other threads, you'd just ignore it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
nope...that hail of bullets did not hit his face

look at the aftereffect...there's trails of smoke from where the bullets hit him (chest, and shoulders) ...yet none from his face

also, single instance of not....I do not recall colossus EVER being pierced by bullets...do you?

It was PIS, dude. He even collapsed after that... does that make his blunt force durability worse than Colossus'?

Anyway, carry on.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Exactly.

We did ✅

Do you remember what the thread was?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're welcome.

One glancing hit under mind control. If it really were a proof that Logan's not able to cut Piotr, then I guess he can't eviscerate Daredevil either.

True.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you remember what the thread was?

Not sure... I think that was some Sabretooth vs. Colossus thread... maybe a team fight.

S'ym pierced him with adamantium claw from another universe and Riptide did with his shurikens. Tbf, that happened before Magneto upgrade.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

does that make his blunt force durability worse than Colossus'?

no it doesn't....because we've seen colossus fall to blunt attacks that thor could withstand

jeez, why you making logic seem so difficult? 😕

Originally posted by Starscream M
no it doesn't....because we've seen colossus fall to blunt attacks that thor could withstand

jeez, why you making logic seem so difficult? 😕

So you agree with me that it was PIS? And therefore that it's not usable on the forum?

Also, take a look at this:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[b]II. DURABILITY

PIERCING

Thor's godly durability has resisted a variety of forces. First, it's appropriate to dispel the myth that Thor cannot resist bullets. While he does usually block them with Mjolnir, his skin is literally bullet-proof, from Thor #315:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability23-Projectile315.jpg

Iron Man describes his ability to resist .44 magnum slugs, from Secret Wars #3:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability24-ProjectileSW03.jpg

Here, he gets shot by aircraft artillery, from Thor #480:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability33480Projectile.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability34480Projectile.jpg

Machine gun bullets bounce harmlessly off of him in Thor #486:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability35486Projectile.jpg

And again in Thor vol. 3 #4:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability43v304Projectile.jpg[/B]

But let's forget about Thor.

Count Nefaria. WWH. Thanos. Thing. Namor. You were so sure their piercing durability is shitty compared to Colossus, now prove it.

If I understand Stilt correctly his referring to the bullet impact.

The bullet itself pierced the thin layer of skin on the forehead and bounced off his skull without a scratch. That impact was what knocked him out as I recall.

The writer did state that the assassin shot him with a vibranium bullet etc. but whatever. It happened.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not sure... I think that was some Sabretooth vs. Colossus thread... maybe a team fight.

S'ym pierced him with adamantium claw from another universe and Riptide did with his shurikens. Tbf, that happened before Magneto upgrade.

Pete Wisdom also cut him up pretty good as I recall.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you agree with me that it was PIS? And therefore that it's not usable on the forum?

Also, take a look at this:

But let's forget about Thor.

Count Nefaria. WWH. Thanos. Thing. Namor. You were so sure their piercing durability is shitty compared to Colossus, now prove it.

There's also this instance.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/BulletUseless11.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/BulletUseless12.jpg

Heck, even Thunderstrike has been shown to be bulletproof.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Bulletsuseless10.jpg

A weakened Thor has even tanked a tank shell.

Don't hold your breath for that proof.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you agree with me that it was PIS? And therefore that it's not usable on the forum?

Also, take a look at this:

But let's forget about Thor.

Count Nefaria. WWH. Thanos. Thing. Namor. You were so sure their piercing durability is shitty compared to Colossus, now prove it.

the thing has had his skin chipped on numerous occasions...colossus never had his skin peeled off

that takes care of the thing

thanos got pierced by logan and had a gaping wound in his chest by a hand

that takes care of thanos

wwh was pierced by adamantium bullets, by logan's claws, and pretty much anything sharp

that takes care of WWH

i dont read count nefarior and namor's a joke if you're seriously asking to prove he is inferior in durability to colossus

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Pete Wisdom also cut him up pretty good as I recall.

And Colossus in a rage, was trying to kill Pete Wisdom...but all he got were bruises, and possibly a fractured jaw. Then again, Wisdoms knives are extremely hot, probably past C's melting point. Still, the fact that Colossus only left him with bruises makes me take fight with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by KingD19
And Colossus in a rage, was trying to kill Pete Wisdom...but all he got were bruises, and possibly a fractured jaw.

And that changes what exactly? We're talking about Colossus' piercing durability and not about his second rate strength.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Pete Wisdom has shown superhuman durability on more than one occasion during Excalibur. I could dig but Colossus isn't worth the trouble.