moral judgement is what we should call it, although everyone has morals they are not all the same, even if we live in the same society, morals are based on an individuals perception of his/ her upbringing in a specific society. there is no set in stone morals anywhere. to a point yes, morals did come from the bible (and other religious texts) but this is not the same as coming from "god". basically it is based on us, as protagoras said "man is the mesure of all things" we percieve reality individually as well as believe in different morals. however we have already taken this argument too far, before we try to say what morals are we first must decide on how we know what is right and what is wrong, this being an epistemological question on the theory of knowledge. so we must ask, how do we know what is truly right, or truly wrong?
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
moral judgement is what we should call it, although everyone has morals they are not all the same, even if we live in the same society, morals are based on an individuals perception of his/ her upbringing in a specific society. there is no set in stone morals anywhere. to a point yes, morals did come from the bible (and other religious texts) but this is not the same as coming from "god". basically it is based on us, as protagoras said "man is the mesure of all things" we percieve reality individually as well as believe in different morals. however we have already taken this argument too far, before we try to say what morals are we first must decide on how we know what is right and what is wrong, this being an epistemological question on the theory of knowledge. so we must ask, how do we know what is truly right, or truly wrong?
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Couldn't you have just said "I don't know"?
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Morals, YAH RIGHT!
So if you think morals come from society and that is OK then what do you think about a society that has morals describing a certain race as subhuman. If majority or that particular society states that it is OK to treat a particular race like subhumans than it is morally ok, by your standards. So in Nazi Germany the killing of 100's of thousands of Jews was morally Ok because it was a law in Germany at that time that Jews were subhuman and it was accepted. Morals based on your society is a break down of society.
Oh and comment to Polygamy is quite funny.
Re: Morals, YAH RIGHT!
Originally posted by shmity
So if you think morals come from society and that is OK then what do you think about a society that has morals describing a certain race as subhuman. If majority or that particular society states that it is OK to treat a particular race like subhumans than it is morally ok, by your standards. So in Nazi Germany the killing of 100's of thousands of Jews was morally Ok because it was a law in Germany at that time that Jews were subhuman and it was accepted. Morals based on your society is a break down of society.Oh and comment to Polygamy is quite funny.
But it was moral in our society to kill the Germans for doing what is moral in their society but not in ours.
Morals dont have to come from God, as they are maintained by society. It just so happens our moral framework is largely based on Judo/Christian thought, our society has maintained that, even in atheistic circles.
However, I think morals are slowly becoming more transparent- we are becoming a culture where "behind closed doors" is a rule What was once a staunch social ideal even just 50 years ago has totally died in modern times, perhaps you could argue so has communal interaction and thus, we become a law unto ourselves...but I don't want to get into that argument, about social decline. Namely because people just say "we are becoming more progressive and better a society" I for one don't accept that but who am I...
Are morals based on God? Perhaps, I like to think so. I don't think you need to believe in God to be moral but that doesn't mean he didnt create them in the first place. God can put a nice bow on any moral package, because without him it becomes more difficult to define a permanent right and wrong. However, maybe we shouldnt have absolute morals.
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Morals dont have to come from God, as they are maintained by society. It just so happens our moral framework is largely based on Judo/Christian thought, our society has maintained that, even in atheistic circles.However, I think morals are slowly becoming more transparent- we are becoming a culture where "behind closed doors" is a rule What was once a staunch social ideal even just 50 years ago has totally died in modern times, perhaps you could argue so has communal interaction and thus, we become a law unto ourselves...but I don't want to get into that argument, about social decline. Namely because people just say "we are becoming more progressive and better a society" I for one don't accept that but who am I...
Are morals based on God? Perhaps, I like to think so. I don't think you need to believe in God to be moral but that doesn't mean he didnt create them in the first place. God can put a nice bow on any moral package, because without him it becomes more difficult to define a permanent right and wrong. However, maybe we shouldnt have absolute morals.
Morals don't come from any one place. They come from parents, siblings, society, culture, media, religion, etc. Now, you don't need all of these things to be a morally sound individual, but I just tried to cover all the bases. I also believe that people have an inherent sense of what is good and what is bad in most situations.