The cost of peace

Do you think we can achieve world peace and if so who would enforce it? We would need a one-world government to do it? Should it be America? Peace advocate Donald Wells has said as much. But whatever kind of society we would have, it would not be a free one. We would all be totally enslaved out of necessity. To truly remove all war from this planet, wer would have to eliminate every local culture in the world, not to mention religion. In my personal opinion cultural conflict & religious conflict are the two most common reasons for war!

So everyone would have to be made to conform--forcibly. Which in turn there would be someone who fight against such a system and thus cause fighting and war.

So my question to you is if it is worth it?

Are there other ways in this world to make peace because a lot of people have fought for it but uit has always been out of our reace

I am sorry to break it to you, ash007. World Peace is impossible to come by, there is no such things. There are thousands of wars going on right now that we do not have a clue about because our media isn't focused on them but the ones of a large scale, like the War on Terror, The War in Afghanistan, The War in Iraq and the Russian ongoing struggle with the Chechyna.

Yeah but why are we at war??

Is not for peace

Thats what we are fighting for or thats what the politicians say

Religion and Culture are the excuses used to start a war, they arent the actual reasons.

Money, greed and power are the reasons.

Power is the one and only thing thats important to people, our whole lives are controled by power.

It is sad to see that there is an attitude as such ''there can be no world peace''

I simply refuse to believe that that is impossible! Why is it impossible? Because you were brought up believing there is no other way? Because you are controled to live in a box where any other alternative to what we have now is impossible.

No way. My professor came up with a quote...and its about us being controled in such way that we are no longer seeking the alternative, but accept the fact that 'war' is something that just happens...a kind of a 'norm' and thats exactly whats happening.

Not only war, but society in general. We are all made to believe that this is how it is...and it shouldnt be in reality.

Greed and Power are reasons, but religious beliefs, fear of new and unknown, and simple prejudice and biggotry are others as well.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It is sad to see that there is an attitude as such ''there can be no world peace''

I simply refuse to believe that that is impossible! Why is it impossible?

Because the world will never agree to drop arms. We live in fear of our own shadow in "The Free World!"

In order for world peace to exist, there would have to be a single council of the world, and the world would have to agree on a set of moral and ethical guidelines.

It can never happen, because independance and individuality are to essential to human train of thought.

Originally posted by Samurai Guy
It can never happen, because independance and individuality are to essential to human train of thought.

👇 nope, I totally disagree.

That kind of thought promots ''just roll with it, cos theres nothing that can be done about it'' feel, which is what the problem today is.

People dying all over the world is not something that just happens, and thats the way it is. It simply isnt.
Thinking otherwise is very wrong.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
👇 nope, I totally disagree.

Wouldnt be the first time, and probably wont be the last, either.

I am not trying to shut you down. And I do admit that the "hopeless" attitude is very abundant in todays society... however you will never have world peace because there is a LACK OF TRUST in your fellow man. Look at the gun law in the states. The "right to bare arms" is taken to the largest extreams!

The fact of the matter is that human unity and world peace are lovely thoughts, and if you can think of a way to make it happen all the more power to you... but it will not happen. Nobody can trust everyone... no matter how much they try.

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In essence... the cost of Peace is

1) Individuality
2) Weapons
3) Independence.

Even if we rid the world of weapons... how would the police operate? The black market could sell weapons. It is not feasible

Ok let me tell you this there has bound to be other people, politicians who are intrested in peace, but it is yet to happen yet

World peace is a pipe dream, no matter how many good people want world peace and are willing to work for it, there will always be one shit head who will try to invade another country or start another genocide out of pure hatred.

It will unfortunately, never happen.

Because it is not a feasible ideal at the moment. Perhaps in another hundred years or so when the inevidible WW3 happens and is over will people see the light that weapons are not essential to our existance.

If that happens it wont last for long, history has it to repeat it self no matter how hard we try to avoid it

Originally posted by Samurai Guy
Wouldnt be the first time, and probably wont be the last, either.

I am not trying to shut you down. And I do admit that the "hopeless" attitude is very abundant in todays society... however you will never have world peace because there is a LACK OF TRUST in your fellow man. Look at the gun law in the states. The "right to bare arms" is taken to the largest extreams!

The fact of the matter is that human unity and world peace are lovely thoughts, and if you can think of a way to make it happen all the more power to you... but it will not happen. Nobody can trust everyone... no matter how much they try.

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In essence... the cost of Peace is

1) Individuality
2) Weapons
3) Independence.

Even if we rid the world of weapons... how would the police operate? The black market could sell weapons. It is not feasible [/B]

Again, its not about trust its about control. The reason people have weapons is so feel in control, NOT because they do not trust each other.

Im not denying the trust issue, but thats hardly the reason why countries/people have weapons.

there can never be peace on this planet as long as humans exist...
u know this

world peace is an illusion. we can never attain it. there are far to many individuals to agree on one thing. my friends have trouble on agreeing where to hang out on a friday night, imagine the trouble we have to deal with regarding global issues, i.e. religion and politics. a forceful implication of ideals to whomever rejects it is war in essence. each and every single one of us has a certain mind set that cannot be "globalized." what you think is acceptable may be offensive to me, and vice versa. picturing the world at peace-- meaning zero war tolerance-- will definitely mean constitutional rights being violate... think equilibrium. no emotions, no rights, no thought, no individualism.

Originally posted by mc pee pants
world peace is an illusion. we can never attain it. there are far to many individuals to agree on one thing. my friends have trouble on agreeing where to hang out on a friday night, imagine the trouble we have to deal with regarding global issues, i.e. religion and politics. a forceful implication of ideals to whomever rejects it is war in essence. each and every single one of us has a certain mind set that cannot be "globalized." what you think is acceptable may be offensive to me, and vice versa. picturing the world at peace-- meaning zero war tolerance-- will definitely mean constitutional rights being violate... think equilibrium. no emotions, no rights, no thought, no individualism.

And you would want to force ideas on people because....?

For the start, you need to get rid of the greedy money hungry, wealthy vampires, who keep sucking out of the poor!

Then how about stopping the Arican debt? Ah, no, thats not gonna happen, because as long as Africa pays America the debt, USA has the power over it.

But you know, you're all right to some extent. World peace can never happen, as long as there is a great majority of people, thinking the way you all do.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And you would want to force ideas on people because....?

For the start, you need to get rid of the greedy money hungry, wealthy vampires, who keep sucking out of the poor!

Then how about stopping the Arican debt? Ah, no, thats not gonna happen, because as long as Africa pays America the debt, USA has the power over it.

But you know, you're all right to some extent. World peace can never happen, as long as there is a great majority of people, thinking the way you all do.

well, for peace to happen people need to start agreeing on sh!t. to co-exist without having the urge to pop a cap in somebody's temple every five minutes. as long as there is religions, money, arms, greed... it can never happen.

and the for the record i meant ideals, not ideas... did you make typo?

I didnt even notice i did...
Anyway, the reason people cannot agree on shit is because there is this capitalist shite all over the world.

How can you possible agree on anything when you have people with more things than you and therefore more power over you?

We could have a world peace...sure we could, its just far too much effort and loss of profit for people to bother.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I didnt even notice i did...
Anyway, the reason people cannot agree on shit is because there is this capitalist shite all over the world.

How can you possible agree on anything when you have people with more things than you and therefore more power over you?

We could have a world peace...sure we could, its just far too much effort and loss of profit for people to bother.

exactly. if we eliminate the rich pompouos bastards that profit from war, the sleazy politicians who has no reason for starting one other than personal sh!t *coughbushandcheneycough* we might have a chance. but seeing that these assh*les are not giving anything up, it is safe to say that world peace is f*cked beyond all recognition.

Originally posted by Samurai Guy
Wouldnt be the first time, and probably wont be the last, either.

I am not trying to shut you down. And I do admit that the "hopeless" attitude is very abundant in todays society... however you will never have world peace because there is a LACK OF TRUST in your fellow man. Look at the gun law in the states. The "right to bare arms" is taken to the largest extreams!

The fact of the matter is that human unity and world peace are lovely thoughts, and if you can think of a way to make it happen all the more power to you... but it will not happen. Nobody can trust everyone... no matter how much they try.

[b][EDIT]

In essence... the cost of Peace is

1) Individuality
2) Weapons
3) Independence.

Even if we rid the world of weapons... how would the police operate? The black market could sell weapons. It is not feasible [/B]

i couldnt agree more.🙂 id rather die before i gave those things up.i see no one in this thread has seen the movie"equilibrium"

If we were a world government, what type of government would we be?
(Examples: Democracy, Theocracy, Tyranny, Ectopia, Anarchy?)

Just a question. 😐