The Official DragonBall Z thread

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Originally posted by Adult Swim Guy
That is true but dbz is kinda like the matrix pritty soon no one will talk about it..it will be forgeten in anime history

Well, things come and go, that's life, but DBZ is the satge setting shonen series. It defined Shonen anime/manga.So, unless shonen anime/manga disappears (Which I doubt) then DBZ won't be forgotten. Dbz grossed 3 billion world wide in sales, it's one hell of a franchise.

i know but theirs only so much u can talk about i mean the show never gets old but i mean after u talk about it all then whats the point i am like a super fan i ain't even going to lie but still. and i think that i would have been better for gohan to fuse wit goku then vegeta but thats my view?

o wait or vegeta and gohan or trunks..

Originally posted by Adult Swim Guy
i know but theirs only so much u can talk about i mean the show never gets old but i mean after u talk about it all then whats the point i am like a super fan i ain't even going to lie but still. and i think that i would have been better for gohan to fuse wit goku then vegeta but thats my view?

o wait or vegeta and gohan or trunks..

I love the fusion arc, it was the best part of the Buu saga. Everything gets old with time, but there are things no matter how old they are, they still impress us. That's how I feel about DBZ, hell your talking to a guy who stills plays Nes, original Game Boy games, and Street Fighter2. I really do not mind old things.

Same with me i mean i will always like dbz i mean i thought about keeping tapes for my kids when i get the age u know and seeing how are greatest anime of are time would match theirs in the future if that makes sense.

I think that gogeta is the ultimate fusion i don't care what anyone says he is the best one.

i mean vegeto is right next to him but still sorry about the 2 post in arow!

I've liked vegeto better since I was in HighSchool, his attitude about fighting and his design are impressive. Also, gogeta looks like a bigger version of Gotenks, heh heh.

actually no he dont just cuz his vest thing? and that is because vegeto is more of vegeta and gogeta is more of goku

Originally posted by Adult Swim Guy
actually no he dont just cuz his vest thing? and that is because vegeto is more of vegeta and gogeta is more of goku

Gotenks and Gogeta dress the same and have the same hair, I see no diiference.

Even in there baseline forms, they have the same hair.

I personally like Vegetto best out of the fusions. Gogeta was okay in 13th movie but I didn't care for the way he was in GT. I'd have liked to see Goten and Trunks fuse in the Bebi saga though but Gokou had to stop them. It would have been nice to see somebody else win that fight instead of them all just giving him their energy.

My biggest problem with GT is the reuse of so many villains. Vegeta, even though he was possessed by Bebi, Freeza, Cell, 17, and every other villain that died. Also how the heck did Trunks and Goten sense 19? That shouldn't have been possible. And how did Goten have any trouble with a guy Vegeta beat over 20 years ago?

Originally posted by Kento
I personally like Vegetto best out of the fusions. Gogeta was okay in 13th movie but I didn't care for the way he was in GT. I'd have liked to see Goten and Trunks fuse in the Bebi saga though but Gokou had to stop them. It would have been nice to see somebody else win that fight instead of them all just giving him their energy.

My biggest problem with GT is the reuse of so many villains. Vegeta, even though he was possessed by Bebi, Freeza, Cell, 17, and every other villain that died. Also how the heck did Trunks and Goten sense 19? That shouldn't have been possible. And how did Goten have any trouble with a guy Vegeta beat over 20 years ago?

Not too mention that GT failed to balance out the power levels properly and introduce concepts that compliment the character. For instance, Son Goku was sup[posed to be weakened in his child form, but manages to stalemate opponets Stronger Than Majin Buu while in his first Supa Saiyajin form?!

Well does it ever say how much weaker he gets? Because it is like twenty years after Buu. I mean he's still got the power to go to ssj3 as a child.

Originally posted by Kento
Well does it ever say how much weaker he gets? Because it is like twenty years after Buu. I mean he's still got the power to go to ssj3 as a child.

Yeah,But shouldn't be able to generate the same amount of ki in that body.

look at gotanks he can go ssj3 and they where about the same size. All fusions that are created by the dance must have the same dress type because gotanks and gogeta do dress the same..

and the thing i did not like about GT was all the old villans come back to life and they dont even put up a fight! like napa gets killed with one blast AGAIN! In the buu saga i really would have liked it if M gohan would have been able to go ssj

Didn't Old Kaioshin tell him to try to go ssj and then he got the whole ssj2 lightning aura without his hair changing color and all the power he got? I was always under the assumption he couldn't go SSJ anymore or he would have when Buu became stronger then him.

I thought if he went ssj he could not handle it or some shit to much power?

See for some reason I remember the Old Kaioshin telling him to go ssj but he doesn't and instead becomes Mystic Gohan. But I might just be not remembering it right. It's been a while since I read the manga, course I read it online, watched the Japanese version of the saga, and watched the American version so I might be confusing it all into one somewhere along the way. I guess seeing three different versions of it will make you unsure about what you know.

Originally posted by Kento
See for some reason I remember the Old Kaioshin telling him to go ssj but he doesn't and instead becomes Mystic Gohan. But I might just be not remembering it right. It's been a while since I read the manga, course I read it online, watched the Japanese version of the saga, and watched the American version so I might be confusing it all into one somewhere along the way. I guess seeing three different versions of it will make you unsure about what you know.

Yeah your right from what i picked up as well is he lost that ability to become a SS once he became Mystic Gohan, the stuff about if he did he would destroy the planet is just a load of crap, funny how vegito did it with no problem unless anyone wants to Say Mystic Gohan>>>>>>Vegito.

My theory on Mystic Gohan is that his hidden ki overcame his Supa Saiya-jin hereditary ability.

Elder Kai said for him to do his "super sayajin" thing to use the power up.
Also from what i gather i think he unlocked all of his inet power.

So these are my questions:
1.Is the mystic power a replacement of his super sayajin abilities?
2.Is it true that if he does in fact go super sayajin he will blow up the universe?
3.Is the mystic power up inbetween a SSJ3 and SSJ4? and if so which one does it lean most to?
4.Is Super Gotenks just as strong as Super Buu? or is it that SSJ3 Gotenks is as strong as super Buu?

Thank you that is all for now...just wanted to clear this up so when i watch it with friends i can tell them the truth.

Here are some answers:

1. Yeah, it looks that way, Elder kai unlocked all of his hidden potential. Supa Saiya-jin is a parternal trait aquired from the Saiya-jin blood line and is autonomous with Son Gohans hidden Ki.

2. I don't think he can power-up to Supa Saiya-jin since he's own ki is dramatically stronger and there is no super power capable of destroying the entire Dragon Ball universe.

3. Supa Saiya-jin 4 isn't canon, so that's irrelevant. And, like I said, all evidence points to gohans power being seperate.

4. I'm pretty sure Gotenks in his third Supa Saiya-jin form is almost or is as strong as Super Buu.