When did Tien ever fight SSJ Gokou? Or any member that was SSJ? He fought Trunks and the fact that he could actually hit Trunks who apparently needed SSJ to win easily says something but that's just what I think. That Trunks needed SSJ but then again Tien told him not to hold back so maybe he didn't need it and just did like Tien asked. But still Krillen couldn't hurt Cell and if Tien had such a low power level I'd assume, but that's me, he wouldn't be able to hurt anybody.
Originally posted by Bigga Nigga420
True that and bojack was weaker then cell so that tells me that goku would have one or could have anyway...and tien fought ssj goku and put up a good fight to so that mean he is strong.10,000 would be like gohan when he was a baby when he got mad anyway!
Who's to say that Trunks wasn't just holding back? Tien punched Trunks in the face and Trunks didn't even feel it at all.
Originally posted by Kento
Actually Gokou DID save the day. If he wouldn't have went to Earth, save Gohan, and told Gohan to release his power Gohan would have been killed. So all in all if Gokou hadn't of done anything Bojack would have won.Also there isn't much use in debating who would win Bojack or Gokou but I do believe that Bojack was weaker then Cell. But that's just from what I remember from the movie.
Also Tien's power level is no use saying if it wasn't above 10 thousand or not but some of the stuff he did with his attacks has to make him strong. He hurt Cell with them, albeit second form and only enough to stall him. Also he blocked a blast from Buu that was about to kill Satan and Dende. How would it be impossible for his power to be higher then most humans? I mean a lot of stuff they learned from him. He trains more then any of the other humans also.
I meant that he didnt come in and then do a simple Kamehameha & kill Bojack. That's what I meant when I said he didn't really save the day.
Also, Bojack is about as strong as Perfect Cell so he could probably defeat Goku seeing as Goku isn't stronger than Goku & didn't have SSJ2 at the time.
Now, for one, he didn't hurt Cell, he only distracted him. And he didn't block that blast from Buu. All he did was, yet again, distract the villain. He's not that strong, contrary to what you might believe.
He's talking about Tien. And I never said Tien hurt Buu. He blocked a blast from Buu with another blast. Something I doubt Krillen or Yamcha could have done. And Trunks was holding back until he went SSJ obviously.
As for Cell he did hurt second form Cell. Also the fact that it kept knocking Cell back means it was a strong blast when most people just sit there when they're hit with weaker blasts.
As for Bojack...I still don't see him being able to take Perfect Cell before Cell kills himself. I'd actually put Bojack maybe around Gokou at full power during that time but obviously Gohan is stronger then Gokou. But yea thats just my opinions just like the whole Broli not being beaten by Gokou when he first appeared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT5Q-4PFuUw
wathc they are even!
If that's Bojack movie cause I don't feel like waiting a very long time to load it because I have dial up Tien was fighting Trunks at normal level not SSJ though. Once Trunks went ssj it was pretty much over. Though that movie isn't canon and I know it can't really be used to say anything about Tien's power or lack of compared to the saiyans.
As much as I don't like Gokou him giving up was just wrong to me. Gokou should have fought and if he wasn't going to win be killed by Cell in a fight then Gohan seeing his father die go ssj2 and then defeat Cell in a epic battle. I think thats what would made Cell saga better to me. Not Gokou giving up and making his son, who didn't want to fight to begin with, fight.
Actually Vegeta saves the day in movies. Gokou's getting beat up or something and Vegeta shows up to save him. That's usually what I consider saving the day. And Vegeta did basically save the day in the Buu Saga. Without him nothing would have happened that destroyed Buu. In my eyes Vegeta and Mr. Satan are the ones who saved the day then. Gokou was just the weapon used to do so.
Originally posted by Bigga Nigga420
He did heart cell some times and he did heart buu when he went ssj3 so dont give me this bullshit about how goku ain't strong your just a goku hater so dont come hating on going in the DBZ thread OK!
For one, you need to shut the **** up. Your intelligence is obviously limited. No one hates Goku. Just because I think that he wasn't strong enough to defeat Bojack doesn't qualify me as a "Goku hater". So, shut the **** up about what you don't know. How bout that?
Originally posted by Kento
Actually Vegeta saves the day in movies. Gokou's getting beat up or something and Vegeta shows up to save him. That's usually what I consider saving the day. And Vegeta did basically save the day in the Buu Saga. Without him nothing would have happened that destroyed Buu. In my eyes Vegeta and Mr. Satan are the ones who saved the day then. Gokou was just the weapon used to do so.
Mr. Satan didn't do a damn thing. Sure, he caused a little distraction but that was it. His help wasn't major, Vegeta was really the savior.
Mr. Satan got everybody to give energy I'm pretty sure that was a very important part right there.
Eh Tien's done a lot better stuff then Krillen has so I'm more inclined to believe Tien > Krillen.
Course Krillen or Tien >>>>>>>Yamcha and Chiaotzu.
Course then there is the thing saying Tien's not human or something so Krillen would be the strongest human.