Originally posted by Phoenix Aska
the storylines did make sense though...why does everyone say it doesn't?
Ok first story.Why is Emperor Pilaf still alive how does he get on Kamis tower considering how dfficult it was shown to be as far back as DB especially Kami can just say "No" and how does he know about these Black Star DBs that nobody ever mentinoed before and how come they didnt disappear back when Piccalo merged with Kami like the regular ones did especially since Dende didnt rebuild them?
Why is the unvierse Frieza ran through as the unchallanged most powerful being in exiestence suddelly FULL of beings stronger than Majin Buu the one that ATE GOD?How can a guy from the race of people that fought Saiyans who sat at BEST Raditzs PL able to make a being that can topple SSJ easily?Why is Gohan the most powerful being in exiestence with all his potential unlocked now not even able to use SSJ2 and dropping below Goten/Trunks in strength?Why is Vegeta stronger than anybody and how did he grow a mustache when grown saiyans CANT?How come Goku suddenly has his tail shoved up his rear end waiting to be pulled out when it was cut off long ago for the last time?Why this SSJ4 form when SSJ3 was already to difficult to sustain in the livng world at all?Why does Goku tell Goten/Trunks not to fuse bcause it would "Waste energy" and to just give it to him in SSJ4?Isnt SSJ3 Gotenks VASTLY stronger than SSJ Gotenk/Trunks and would be able to give morre energy?
Story 2-Android 17 was really the ultimate weapon of Dr.Gero and that whole Perfect cell thing was just a gag?Why is "Twice as strong as the original 17" amazing when USSJ Vegeta/Trunks outranked 17 and 50% power Goku after training in the ROSAT was stonger than him?Why do Frieza and Cell come after Goku?Should Cell be ALOT angrier at Gohan for killing him?What about Frieza sure he hates Goku but Trunks is the one that actually killed him?HOW in the heck does Base Kid Goky thats supposed to be weaker than his adult form take them both on[or even just Super Perfect Cell]?WHY does Hell exist when it didnt exist in ATs manga and the filler scenes with it didnt affect the storyline thus were ignoreable?How about everyone in hell dying and coming back when Goku made it clear that the dead cease to exist when killed when vegeta threw himself at kid Buu.Why does Goku become stupid enough to fire more energy blasts at Super 17 like eh DIDNT learn it was possible from Android 19 years ago?Why does Goku get knocked down to base form and do better against Super 17 than SSJ4 goku did take hits from him and eventualyl KILL HIM because he was paying more attention to 18?
Originally posted by EvilCap America
Ok first story.Why is Emperor Pilaf still alive how does he get on Kamis tower considering how dfficult it was shown to be as far back as DB especially Kami can just say "No" and how does he know about these Black Star DBs that nobody ever mentinoed before and how come they didnt disappear back when Piccalo merged with Kami like the regular ones did especially since Dende didnt rebuild them?Why is the unvierse Frieza ran through as the unchallanged most powerful being in exiestence suddelly FULL of beings stronger than Majin Buu the one that ATE GOD?How can a guy from the race of people that fought Saiyans who sat at BEST Raditzs PL able to make a being that can topple SSJ easily?Why is Gohan the most powerful being in exiestence with all his potential unlocked now not even able to use SSJ2 and dropping below Goten/Trunks in strength?Why is Vegeta stronger than anybody and how did he grow a mustache when grown saiyans CANT?How come Goku suddenly has his tail shoved up his rear end waiting to be pulled out when it was cut off long ago for the last time?Why this SSJ4 form when SSJ3 was already to difficult to sustain in the livng world at all?Why does Goku tell Goten/Trunks not to fuse bcause it would "Waste energy" and to just give it to him in SSJ4?Isnt SSJ3 Gotenks VASTLY stronger than SSJ Gotenk/Trunks and would be able to give morre energy?
Story 2-Android 17 was really the ultimate weapon of Dr.Gero and that whole Perfect cell thing was just a gag?Why is "Twice as strong as the original 17" amazing when USSJ Vegeta/Trunks outranked 17 and 50% power Goku after training in the ROSAT was stonger than him?Why do Frieza and Cell come after Goku?Should Cell be ALOT angrier at Gohan for killing him?What about Frieza sure he hates Goku but Trunks is the one that actually killed him?HOW in the heck does Base Kid Goky thats supposed to be weaker than his adult form take them both on[or even just Super Perfect Cell]?WHY does Hell exist when it didnt exist in ATs manga and the filler scenes with it didnt affect the storyline thus were ignoreable?How about everyone in hell dying and coming back when Goku made it clear that the dead cease to exist when killed when vegeta threw himself at kid Buu.Why does Goku become stupid enough to fire more energy blasts at Super 17 like eh DIDNT learn it was possible from Android 19 years ago?Why does Goku get knocked down to base form and do better against Super 17 than SSJ4 goku did take hits from him and eventualyl KILL HIM because he was paying more attention to 18?
I'll answer your questions later when I wake up tonight..right now I don't feel like arguing with a complete dbz fanatic over poinltless issues...but don't worry..i will debate because this could be interesting...
Originally posted by EvilCap America
Ok first story.Why is Emperor Pilaf still alive how does he get on Kamis tower considering how dfficult it was shown to be as far back as DB especially Kami can just say "No" and how does he know about these Black Star DBs that nobody ever mentinoed before and how come they didnt disappear back when Piccalo merged with Kami like the regular ones did especially since Dende didnt rebuild them?Why is the unvierse Frieza ran through as the unchallanged most powerful being in exiestence suddelly FULL of beings stronger than Majin Buu the one that ATE GOD?How can a guy from the race of people that fought Saiyans who sat at BEST Raditzs PL able to make a being that can topple SSJ easily?Why is Gohan the most powerful being in exiestence with all his potential unlocked now not even able to use SSJ2 and dropping below Goten/Trunks in strength?Why is Vegeta stronger than anybody and how did he grow a mustache when grown saiyans CANT?How come Goku suddenly has his tail shoved up his rear end waiting to be pulled out when it was cut off long ago for the last time?Why this SSJ4 form when SSJ3 was already to difficult to sustain in the livng world at all?Why does Goku tell Goten/Trunks not to fuse bcause it would "Waste energy" and to just give it to him in SSJ4?Isnt SSJ3 Gotenks VASTLY stronger than SSJ Gotenk/Trunks and would be able to give morre energy?
Story 2-Android 17 was really the ultimate weapon of Dr.Gero and that whole Perfect cell thing was just a gag?Why is "Twice as strong as the original 17" amazing when USSJ Vegeta/Trunks outranked 17 and 50% power Goku after training in the ROSAT was stonger than him?Why do Frieza and Cell come after Goku?Should Cell be ALOT angrier at Gohan for killing him?What about Frieza sure he hates Goku but Trunks is the one that actually killed him?HOW in the heck does Base Kid Goky thats supposed to be weaker than his adult form take them both on[or even just Super Perfect Cell]?WHY does Hell exist when it didnt exist in ATs manga and the filler scenes with it didnt affect the storyline thus were ignoreable?How about everyone in hell dying and coming back when Goku made it clear that the dead cease to exist when killed when vegeta threw himself at kid Buu.Why does Goku become stupid enough to fire more energy blasts at Super 17 like eh DIDNT learn it was possible from Android 19 years ago?Why does Goku get knocked down to base form and do better against Super 17 than SSJ4 goku did take hits from him and eventualyl KILL HIM because he was paying more attention to 18?
All right now...to begin emperor pilaf wasn't that old in dragonball...I mean he still had that voice like he needed to go through puberty and he acted like a spoiled child..I'm not too sure if it ever gave his age but it did show that he had aged...a lot at the beginning of GT when it showed him with those other two people..(the lady amd the ninja fox or bear or whatever it is that he was...) In GT as you probably know Kami no longer existed since he fused with Piccolo so it was Dende who was guardian of the earth with mr popo still by his side. I guess they got up the tower with "new technology" lol maybe longer lasting more fuel efficient jet packs on those robots that they came up with. The black star balls were just used as a way to keep the story going..I guess they didn't dissapear when he fused with kami because techinically piccolo was still alive but if he died than they would have disappeared. As you know dragonball GT means "grand tour" so they went all over the universe looking for the dragonballs after pilaf made the wish to turn Goku chibi. The creator thought it would be a fun new twist to the show. Now Gohan was the most powerful being when he was a little kid during the cell tournament..but after that he had some incidents like the bojack thing where he had to go into ssj2 but never again until the buu saga but in the meanwhile, gohan was studying for school and not training so he therefore became weaker. I don't know how vegeat all of a sudden grew a mustache..lol but you have to admit he looked all goofy and just...wrong with it lol...Well Goku needed to power up and regain his energy when he asked trunks and goten not to fuse...maybe it has something to do with how their power had to be equal to first obtain it and form and he didn't want them to screw up or he didn't wanna waste time and just simply said that as an execuse. Hell did exist in Dragonball Z...and those creatures that escaped the first time were never really wished back so I guess they're a seprate catergory. Vegeta had already been wished back by the dragon once and you can't revive someone a second time using the dragonballs...I guess Goku was thinking since he did figure out super 17 could absorb energy but still did the 10x kamehameha that there was a possiblity that super 17 could absorb too much energy and malufunction or something or overload...lol
my fav character is kid trunks and bad guy broly.i like the three in this order
DBZ
DBGT
DB
dragonball was just too childish until tien and piccolo that was the best part.and goku seeing bulma naked and crap was just plain weird i mean what the hell do they have to show that for.goku was sooo stupid too i mean really
dragonball zwas awesome.i thought frieza was dead and then this mystrious guy Trunks? he is a super saiyan too?how the hell i mean it was awesome.
i thought goku killed cell wth that nice move.but when he gave up i knew gohan was next.
the goten vs trunks fight was nice but it seemed like they just got weaker in dbgt.they were already ss shouldnt they have gone ss2.they both were just lazy
and gohan had to get married that ruined him lol o nm great saiyaman ruined him.gohan was the **** until he became great saiyaman.he was the first to ss2 even when he was kid he was awesome little guy i mean lik 5 he was cool.
DBGT was ok ss4 was the best part of that whole thing.seeing goku's butt was weird and pan staring at him lol.anyway gt was good story.bebi saga was the best and the dragon saga was pretty good.super 17 was ok i didnt like it that much leave 17 alone.