i dnt know, im with JP here.
i see this shit all the time, freakin 11-12 years
old and dressing like sluts. and its not like they are
sneeking out of the house with these cloths, their
parents buy it for them. everytime i see these little
girls i think "THAT is why i will never have kids"
and its true. with my luck, ill have a daughter, she'll start
wearing crap like that before she even finishes puberty.
screw that.
Anyway I'm not trying to derail your topic - I just think the mixed messages in whats expected of you as a teen depending on gender is interesting.
Also sometimes partly responsible for what you are talking about - if guys of an age are seen to be acting older/maturing faster and sexually active - girls will naturally assume its ok, and want to be perceived as also "liberated" from constraint.
Well believe it or not, its still a male opression over females. Its easy to deal with sexism when its in front of you, but when its built into the very structure of our social upbringing it is rather arder to fight it.
This is an example of it. Everyone will make a big deal when girls do it, but when guys do it...its not so bad.
Sure, its a male orientated society... those girls arent dressing that way because it make them feel good, they are dressing to impress... and its wrong. It just means stupid people who raise their kids in front of the tv need to stop breading and parents need to start being more involved in what thier kids are doing, even if they hate it now, they will thank you later.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Everyone will make a big deal when girls do it, but when guys do it...its not so bad.
Exactly my point, and rather than listen to parents who "make a big deal " kids will listen to there peer group as they always have.
This is almost something we have to expect as a consequence of sexism gradually breaking down: Good for the goose, good for the gander.
Originally posted by PVS
i dnt know, im with JP here.
i see this shit all the time, freakin 11-12 years
old and dressing like sluts. and its not like they are
sneeking out of the house with these cloths, their
parents buy it for them. everytime i see these little
girls i think "THAT is why i will never have kids"
and its true. with my luck, ill have a daughter, she'll start
wearing crap like that before she even finishes puberty.
screw that.
PVS, its up to the parent to not let their daughter go out of the house dressed like a sl*t. My oldest daughter was a sophmore in high school and college guys were always trying to pick up on her cause she had huge t*ts and a great face. I cant tell you how many times I had to stop her at the front door in the morning with "you are NOT wearing that to school, go back and change!" To me alot of the blame falls on the parents for allowing this kind of behavior. But the point I was trying to make it that honestly it sickens me to see so many of the young people here at kmc going on and on about how so and so is sexy and so and so isnt even 17! And Zero you CAN prevent your kids from dressing that way but many parents dont want to endure the fighting.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I cant tell you how many times I had to stop her at the front door in the morning with "you are NOT wearing that to school, go back and change!" To me alot of the blame falls on the parents for allowing this kind of behavior.
Curious -
Who gets the blame for the fact that your daughter wanted to dress that way in the first place?
And at what age do you think you cease to have the right to tell her how to dress?
its a return to the 'femenine mystique' of the 50's.
where a woman's only purpose is to be a sex toy with no mind.
just cooking, sex, shopping, sex, do hair/nails, shop, sex...
parents and bible beaters go after hip hop artists and rock bands while ignoring companies who pass themselves off as wholesome and teaching family values, when if you actually look at the programming its more like breeding a pre-$lut culture. disney is at the top of my guilt list.
Originally posted by Mr Zero
Curious -Who gets the blame for the fact that your daughter wanted to dress that way in the first place?
And at what age do you think you cease to have the right to tell her how to dress?
First question-undoubtedly peer pressure
Second question-until she graduated high school
Im not a big fan of the you owe your kids respect thinking Zero, I think thats crap, you owe your kids room, board and guidance as a parent, they can earn respect later on.