Re: Is the Bible hate speech, does it preach genocide?
Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
The Christian God is a God that teaches genocide.I have a native professor at university that is finishing up on a book with a similar title. He examines the bible and shows all of the verse which advocate actions that conflict with what the commonly held definiton of genocide is. I am not sure exactly which verses he is choosing to use but I found a site with a ton of quotes from the Bible that are promoting hate. I know what kind of thread this is going to end up being like, but I'm hoping that there is going to be some level discussion going at some point. I just want to show some of the quotes and see what you guys think. Is it promoting hate or genocide? How does verses like this conflict with the image that Christians have of themselves?
This is the site:
Just some of the verses:
"I saw that the people were marrying foreigners. Their children were even learning foreign languages. I called down curses on them. I struck them and tore the hair out of their heads and made them swear by god, 'you will not marry foreigners.'" Neh. 13:23 "So I purged them of everything foreign. I drew up regulations defining everyone's duty. Remember me, oh god, for my happiness." Neh. 13:30
"They waged war as god had commanded them and killed every male. But they kept the women as captives and took their wealth as spoil. Moses was enraged. 'So you spared the women? Kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse and kill every little boy, but keep the virgin girls for yourself. Divide them up evenly.'" Num. 31:7, 14
"You must drive all the natives of the land before you. If you do not drive the natives of the country before you then those who remain will become disgusting to your eyes and a thorn in your side. They will harass you in the land where you live, and I will deal with you as I meant to deal with them." Num. 33:51 "Devour the nations the lord your god delivers over to you. Show them no pity."
"Slaves you may possess, but make sure they are foreigners. You may also make slaves of the natives who dwell among you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. You may own them as chattels and leave them to your sons as their heriditary property, making them slaves forever. But you should not lord it over your own countryman, your own kinsmen." Lev. 25:44
Mere words will not keep a slave in order. He may understand, but he will not respond. Pamper a slave and he will be ungrateful. A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of a fool." Proverbs "When a man beats a slave so hard that he dies in a day or two, he shall not be punished, for the slave is his property." Ex. 21:20
The list goes on and on...
What do you guys think? Is the Bible is hate literature?
Your professor is not god,he did not create all things,and he is a simple human therefor he doesn't know everything.
Speaking of a professor in old those who did not have one did not go the eternal bliss according to the faith...Kings were denied one if not cooperating with the Pope of those times..History shows that one king even groveled to be in the Popes favor for fear of eternal death along with physical death put upon by the pope.
Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
The Christian God is a God that teaches genocide.I have a native professor at university that is finishing up on a book with a similar title. He examines the bible and shows all of the verse which advocate actions that conflict with what the commonly held definiton of genocide is. I am not sure exactly which verses he is choosing to use but I found a site with a ton of quotes from the Bible that are promoting hate. I know what kind of thread this is going to end up being like, but I'm hoping that there is going to be some level discussion going at some point. I just want to show some of the quotes and see what you guys think. Is it promoting hate or genocide? How does verses like this conflict with the image that Christians have of themselves?
This is the site:
Just some of the verses:
"I saw that the people were marrying foreigners. Their children were even learning foreign languages. I called down curses on them. I struck them and tore the hair out of their heads and made them swear by god, 'you will not marry foreigners.'" Neh. 13:23 "So I purged them of everything foreign. I drew up regulations defining everyone's duty. Remember me, oh god, for my happiness." Neh. 13:30
"They waged war as god had commanded them and killed every male. But they kept the women as captives and took their wealth as spoil. Moses was enraged. 'So you spared the women? Kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse and kill every little boy, but keep the virgin girls for yourself. Divide them up evenly.'" Num. 31:7, 14
"You must drive all the natives of the land before you. If you do not drive the natives of the country before you then those who remain will become disgusting to your eyes and a thorn in your side. They will harass you in the land where you live, and I will deal with you as I meant to deal with them." Num. 33:51 "Devour the nations the lord your god delivers over to you. Show them no pity."
"Slaves you may possess, but make sure they are foreigners. You may also make slaves of the natives who dwell among you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. You may own them as chattels and leave them to your sons as their heriditary property, making them slaves forever. But you should not lord it over your own countryman, your own kinsmen." Lev. 25:44
Mere words will not keep a slave in order. He may understand, but he will not respond. Pamper a slave and he will be ungrateful. A whip for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of a fool." Proverbs "When a man beats a slave so hard that he dies in a day or two, he shall not be punished, for the slave is his property." Ex. 21:20
The list goes on and on...
What do you guys think? Is the Bible is hate literature?
Something that you do not believe exists cannot preach anything.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
We must then all persume that you believe in Christianity and Bible literaly - in order to believe that 'Christian God' himself is preaching genocide, you MUST believe in.Something that you do not believe exists cannot preach anything.
It's not a Christian god that is teaching this, it is the people of religion that are teaching this.
Originally posted by debbiejo
?? Could you explain further please. Mindship 🙂
The Bible (or any genuinely inspired spiritual writing) is a really cool text in that it probably reflects just about every aspect of human existence there is: from the mundane (eg, diet), to the highest aspirations. Some of it is to be taken literally, some symbolically. In effect, when a person reads the Bible, for better or worse, they are pulling out of it what they want, what they need, filling in the "gaps in their psyche" (mostly unconsciously) as a means of understanding (for better or worse) their own life perspective.
You know I saw this load of crap and had to answer My God The God That created all things does not preach genocide he simply give us the way we should live and that if some choose not to live that way there is a nice hot place for them to burn for all there lives you don't believe that's fine with me but one day your burning soul will wish it had listened!
neonight
whobdamandog, you love to insult people dont you? You call yourself a Christian? Go and learn what this means.....
Matt 12:36-37
36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
[37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
I pray for you.
Originally posted by Son of Man
whobdamandog, you love to insult people dont you? You call yourself a Christian? Go and learn what this means.....
Matt 12:36-37
36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
[37] For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.I pray for you.
Well I guess you've just condemned yourself Son with misrepresentations in this post and by what you've posted in many other threads. It's fairly obvious to most that you are just attempting to misrepresent, satirize, and mock Christianity at this point. I commend you for your failed effort. I bid you adieu my friend...and pray that God will provide you with the type of attention you seem to be longing so desperately for.