DareDevil vs. The Fantastic Four

Ok DareDevil has taken many teams of men and monsters on at a time! Not only did he beat Sabertooth (which most of the X-men put together) have had a hard time with), he also beat Spiderman, The World Conquering Tyrannus and and his entire serpent legion at the same time with no help. Now what?

are u joking, saber tooth is nothing to the xmen, and how did he beat tyrannus?

First DD fights off many of Tyrannus's serpent army only to find a berserk Spiderman. DD and Spiderman duked it out with DD knocking some sense into him, then they DD releases Dr. Strange whom with his last ounce of strangth after being held captive wipes out whats left of the guards! But it all comes down to DD facing off and stoping Tyrannus although he suffers many blows and Spiderman and Dr. Strange get away safely...but of course DD wins! next

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Telperaca
[B]DD = 1 person
F4 - 4 people

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Isn't it obvious? 🙄 Ok so you say DD= 1 person huh? well your right about 1 thing, first of all DD has killed tons of people alone. Some are just highly trained anonymous henchmen but others have great history.

What the @#$! of course FF wins!

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Are u ****ing kidding with me, first of all DD took on Elecrta, Bullseye and the Kingpin all in one night. He has also taken on Mr. Fear, Ox, the Jester and Stiltman!

Yeah he took on all three of them...but only one against 2. Elektra whooped his arse on the roof 😉

I'm still waiting on Cosmo to say just how Daredevil can beat the Fantastic Four, cause I wanna know.

I think we saw a fight similar to DD vs Thing in a moved called Labyrinth in Ludo the gentle giant vs Didymus the dog riding another dog like a horse.

Daredevil gets his ass handed to him virtually anytime he goes up against Spider-Man. i don't recall the 'Berserk Spider-Man,' but the by the very definition, berserk Spidey is not in control of his faculties, thus Daredevil has more control and reason. When Spider-Man is calm and in control, he beats Daredevil like a redneck beats his wife. Daredevil is an exceptional fighter, but you don't know much about the Marvel Universe if you think he's on the level of the higher-ups like Fantastic Four or even the mid-grade heroes like Spider-Man. Daredevil loses, period.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
First DD fights off many of Tyrannus's serpent army only to find a berserk Spiderman. DD and Spiderman duked it out with DD knocking some sense into him, then they DD releases Dr. Strange whom with his last ounce of strangth after being held captive wipes out whats left of the guards! But it all comes down to DD facing off and stoping Tyrannus although he suffers many blows and Spiderman and Dr. Strange get away safely...but of course DD wins! next

There was NO berserk Spider-Man but a hypnotized Spider-Man. Big difference !! Daredevil admitted it himself : Spider-Man didn't use his spider-sense, didn't dodge any attack from DD and fought much slower than usual. And still he really was kicking DD's ass all over the place. Hah !

At the end of the fight, Spider-Man was trying to drown DD, who desperately hit Spider-Man in the face. Then dr. Strange showed up, and the fight ended (yes, it ended because Strange showed up. DD hit Spider-Man, but it did nothing, it only released him a few seconds from the grip of the hypnotized Spider-Man).

Barely holding your own against a slow fighting, nothing dodging and spider-sense ignoring Spider-Man... that's not a victory in my book.

DareDevil took Dr. Doom! What te hell do you mean he's not on the level of the higher ups! The last time FF fought Dr. Doom they got their assses kicked! DD fought him alone too while all four ganged up on Doom and he still escaped! LOL

I'd love for you to reference that...

a.) when did DD ever "take" Doom
b.) which Doom kicking of the FF are you talking about?

Ok Link I really dont think I should prove anything to you but I will. It all began i some horrible FF tale where they were after Dr. Doom and they had finally gotten through the guards and to him. He fooled them all with his mad skill and illusions. Which first of all DD would never fall for since his senses direct him only to the correct person. Then in DareDevil # 37- 38 Dr. Doom captures DareDevil and trades bodies with him. Anyways the dubmfounded FF show up late in # 38 but its too late because DD had already tricked Doom into switching back bodies. Then the FF get tricked by Dr. Doom into thinking DD is Dr. Doom so there you go! DD is smarter and more reliable, plus he knows when a villain lies!

OK, first off....I most certainly do think you should PROVE anything that you say. Otherwise it shouldn't be considered legitament....that's how discussions work.

2nd. You're talking about all in the same 2 comic books. You just said DD is smarter.

Smarter than who? Than Reed Richards? Than Dr. Doom?

Can DD create the device to switch bodies? No, but he can use the device Doom created and designed. What was DD doing getting captured in the first place if he is more reliable and knows when villians lie?

I'm not trying to trash your arguement...i'm just trying to find verifiable proof here.

If Doom wanted to....he could easily trick DD. But to Doom's credit....he can pretty much trick anyone in the Marvel Universe.

Then you admit DD took Dr. Doom!

who took who first?

and what physical fighting went on in this comic? So far I've heard nothing but mind games....

THE number one foe that DD has taken on and beaten, not once, but twice:
The last time DD bumped into Dr. Doom was indirectly in that Doom was the one who restored Ultron. Early in his career, however, DD bumped into this cosmic level bad guy, not once, but twice. The first time he held his own against Doom physically until a powerless Fantastic Four could regain their powers and then help DD. The second time, DD won without a single blow by completely outsmarting Doom (something usually reserved for geniuses like Reed Richards). While one of Daredevil's most outstanding features may be his incredible fighting skills and acrobatics, his mind has proven equally agile on many occasions.
(Fantastic Four #39-40, Daredevil #38-40 & FF #73) ha, ha what now?

Cosmo Kramer, Doom is way above DD's level. So is Spider-Man by the way.

Facts : Spider-Man is stronger, faster, more agile, tougher, more experienced (yes he is), has faced more dangerous villains than DD, has his web DD can not break, has a spider-sense and has superior reflexes.

And he has no special weaknesses, but DD has ! He can't stand very loud noise.

Like I said : DD has lots of trouble holding his own against a hypnotized Spider-Man. Imagine what a normal Spider-Man can do.

He fought Spiderman and beat him before when webhead wasnt hipnotized and that fights a whole diffrent subject. DareDevil knows alot more about fighting then Spiderman and has kicked his ass!

when did Daredevil defeat a non-hypnotized Spiderman?