The Grudge · Horror Movies

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by BackFire
"He was always evil but he just seemed to like to creep people out"
He seemed to be in control of himself though, he could talk, and NOT attack people. The female ghost killed everyone and seemed to have no control over it, like she had to do it. Why was the boy not the same way? Just sloppy storytelling I guess.

They both I'm sure in control but the female just seemed to want to kill more. as said the boy seemed to just lure people so the mother could kill. Plus i think he could talk because you don't want to ghost that just kill, the kid gave it a little more weird because when people realize that they talked to a dead kid its a little more messed up.

Originally posted by BackFire
"Hate to say but scary movies tend to have weak stories. well most of them."
Nah, just the shitty ones. Typically, psycological horror films (like this one is supposed to be) are supposed to have a good story going on, this did not.

which movie do u think is this scary and has a good story, i cant think of one.

BackFire Blood. It's nature's lube

The Shining - Outstanding story, acting, and storytelling.

28 Days Later - Flows very well, another good horror movie with a good story.

In the Mouth of Madness

The Thing

Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by BackFire
The Shining - Outstanding story, acting, and storytelling.
28 Days Later - Flows very well, another good horror movie with a good story.
In the Mouth of Madness
The Thing
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

yea but I'm talking actual "Scary Movies" not ones that are dark. what i was trying to say is that usually the more scare in the movie the less great the story behind it. i agree the shining was good but not scary. 28DL just sucked in every thing. in the mouth of madness i have never seen. And the thing also cool, but i wouldn't say it was scary of even that great in story line.

BackFire Blood. It's nature's lube

All of the movies I listed are far scarier then pretty much every other horror movie that has come out recenty.

Most recent horror movies (including the grudge) rely on simple jump scares, nothing more. Those are the easiest and laziest scares that exist. Just some pounding music slowly building up and then there's a big noise that produces the jump, rather then the actual visuals in teh film. These types of scares are generally signs of a poor horror movie.

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by BackFire
All of the movies I listed are far scarier then pretty much every other horror movie that has come out recenty.
Most recent horror movies (including the grudge) rely on simple jump scares, nothing more. Those are the easiest and laziest scares that exist. Just some pounding music slowly building up and then there's a big noise that produces the jump, rather then the actual visuals in teh film. These types of scares are generally signs of a poor horror movie.

They were good movie's but in no way are they scary in any way. Even those movies used scary music and that same crap. And I no the grudge had some jumps, but i don't think it even had more then 2(I'm not sure). the grudge more just had f'd up ghost walking around, thats what was scary to me not just pop ups (those don't get to me at all). but still I'm just saying for the movie you listed to have the good story they totally lack on the scare factor, as much as you sat they're scary i can not agree, they were way weak on th scare factor.

Cinemaddiction AmStar 14 Manager

Why even bother arguing this? It differs from person to person. Totally pointless.

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Why even bother arguing this? It differs from person to person. Totally pointless.

yes but i still say I'm pretty sure alot of people (not just me) would say these movie have better story but also lack scare factor. but yes pointless

BackFire Blood. It's nature's lube

Originally posted by Major Knight
yes but i still say I'm pretty sure alot of people (not just me) would say these movie have better story but also lack scare factor. but yes pointless

Really? Is that why most of these movies are recognized by a HUGE amount of people as among the best horro films ever made. ESPECIALLY The Shining, The Thing, and Henry😛ortrait of a Serial Killer.

Lord_Andres Wanted Dead or Alive

The scary thing about Henry and The Shining is that it could acturly happen, we all know that things like a girl coming out of the TV is just pure humor, it makes one laugh, first when i saw it I was like ''WTF!'' hell y not just have her walk trough the walls or somethin, anyway I got the jap version of the grudge laying right next to me, a friend of mine said it was easily the scariest movie he had seen since the ring 😂 weeeell I' gonna give it a shot in a few mins hehe

Cinemaddiction AmStar 14 Manager

Well, the thing about "Henry" is this. Mike Rooker shoulda gotten an Oscar. I mean it, because until "Monster" came along, he played the quintessential disturbed serial killer. As for the rest of the movie..meh. You know he couldn't let anyone get close to him without killing them, so the predictability, and waiting for it to happen hurt it. It had good atmosphere too, especially for an indie, but you still knew what was coming.

I don't remember "The Shining" well enough to comment, personally.

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by BackFire
Really? Is that why most of these movies are recognized by a HUGE amount of people as among the best horro films ever made. ESPECIALLY The Shining, The Thing, and Henry😛ortrait of a Serial Killer.

Yea but i believe they are called some of the scariest back in the day, but i cant look back at classics and say their scary, cause there not because they look fake. but back in the day I'm sure they were the scariest.

thegreatrudini Violator of the innocent

just seen the original and to b honest i prefer the yank 1

BackFire Blood. It's nature's lube

Originally posted by Major Knight
Yea but i believe they are called some of the scariest back in the day, but i cant look back at classics and say their scary, cause there not because they look fake. but back in the day I'm sure they were the scariest.

They look fake? How so? If you're talking about gore or makeup, then you need to learn the fact that gore and makeup are cheap, and just because a movie has good gore and make up does not make it scary. It just makes it expensive. Relying on gore and makeup for a films scare factor is the easy way out. A good film will rely on atmosphere to be scary.

All of those movies are still recognized as the tops the genre has to offer, and they are all miles above anything else that's come out recently.

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by BackFire
They look fake? How so? If you're talking about gore or makeup, then you need to learn the fact that gore and makeup are cheap, and just because a movie has good gore and make up does not make it scary. It just makes it expensive. Relying on gore and makeup for a films scare factor is the easy way out. A good film will rely on atmosphere to be scary.
All of those movies are still recognized as the tops the genre has to offer, and they are all miles above anything else that's come out recently.

For a movie to be scary to me i have to be able to believe it looks real to me. If something like "the thing" is on my T.V. and i can totally tell its fake its like watching a comedy with good action. don't get me wrong i like most of the movies you listed but, there just to dated to be scary any more.

Cinemaddiction AmStar 14 Manager

"The Thing" still has an air of complete terror. Cast aside the (fantastic) gore and (incredible) special effects and get right to the atmosphere John Carpenter penned.

You're in Antarctica, with a group of 6-7 people. There's a virus of some sort going around, and you have no ****ing clue who's next, or who may already have it. Your transportation was blown sky high, and you're stranded. Who do you trust if anyone? How are you going to stay alive? It's almost impossible to come out ahead, unless you literally sacrifice your life for a chance at survival.

I don't know what else to say. Start enjoying movies a little more, especially Sci Fi/Horror, because if you don't suspend reality, the situations are already so exagerrated, of course it's going to be "funny".

SlipknoT Restricted

The Thing is a classic, I love that movie

Emma718 posthuman

The Grudge was pretty good....it wasn't really a scary more that i would have a nightmare and stuff..it just made u jump and kind of freaked out

Lord_Andres Wanted Dead or Alive

jumps and gore are cheap, I could make a movie that made you jump

Major Knight Nothin Better then Knight

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
"The Thing" still has an air of complete terror. Cast aside the (fantastic) gore and (incredible) special effects and get right to the atmosphere John Carpenter penned.
You're in Antarctica, with a group of 6-7 people. There's a virus of some sort going around, and you have no ****ing clue who's next, or who may already have it. Your transportation was blown sky high, and you're stranded. Who do you trust if anyone? How are you going to stay alive? It's almost impossible to come out ahead, unless you literally sacrifice your life for a chance at survival.
I don't know what else to say. Start enjoying movies a little more, especially Sci Fi/Horror, because if you don't suspend reality, the situations are already so exagerrated, of course it's going to be "funny".

I'm not sure about "an air of complete terror" but it was good. just not scary to me. like the story had the goods, like you just wrote, 7 plp, virus, no one to trust. Brilliant.

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i personally didnt like it, but thats just me...