New UN Members

Today at my uni the German Ambassador to Australia (a man of 20+ years experience in the UN and diplomatic corp) gave a talk to our UN society and other interested guests about the proposal on the board to exband the permanant Security Council from 5 to 10 with new members being Germany, India, Brazil........

My question is do you think the security council A.) Should be enlarged beyond the five current nations (who are the ones who won WWII) and B.) should it be these nations that get the new posistions?

Personally I am all for it........

UN has become a farse

It still has its place, and it is better then the alternative; no UN.

Aye. Supporting the UN and attempting to make it work better is a far more appealing idea than abandoning it entirely. I'm sure ther's some nice metaphors I could use here, but I'm too afraid that people might think I meant "appalling" instead of "appealing."

It still has its place, and it is better then the alternative; no UN.

I think that in the changing world, the modern world, its role is more vital then ever, it is a body that can manage so much, help so many, and I mean, if it manages to stop one war, if it manages to help people, then it is succeeding, as a body that is able to help humanity, to work out problems before they come to blows, and as a symbol of unity and comradeship......

it is a body that can manage so much,

there is no negativ whith the idea of the UN but lately it seems like its payback time for vetos of the past. The Un seems crippled in even passing a simplests of thing

Yes, the veto is a questionable tool, but then nations are allowed to think differently, and having such a power can insure an unwise action is not forced upon the whole, that there can be some manner of stop mechinism that can prevent strongarming.

And the UN is only as good as the nations that make it up, it is unfortunate if nations with Veto maintain grudges.

The current UN is a joke.

I'm all in favor of making any changes that might change that image.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
The current UN is a joke.

I'm all in favor of making any changes that might change that image.

Like?

*sigh*

well if ANY changes aren't good enough. I suppose I might try to name a few.

Lets see, more members, a stricter policy against those who break their sanctions, more financial support from nations other than the United States.

It's my personal belief that when all the countries of the world can become members of the United Nations....this world will finally start to act as one. Synergy is everything...

Lets see, more members, a stricter policy against those who break their sanctions, more financial support from nations other than the United States.

The US isn't the only country doing anything you know 🙄
You make it sound like they are the only ones responsible for the operation of the UN......

And I support the notion of Germany joining, because of it's influence in the world thus far, but what others would be included?

I think only countries that show great contributions to the world should be able to join.

jesus, it was a GENERAL statement. If you want me to add asterisks for all the countries that give their dues...best of luck. I'm American...since when haven't we done things 1/2 ass?

I'm sorry that I make it seem as if the US is the only country providing financial support....that was most certainly not my intention. I said "more" countries provide financial support because of people like finti's views that just because a country is small...they should do what they can.

I'm not asking small economies to pour out everything they have, but if it's for the better good of humanity as a whole? Then why not spend more than "the average"? Does it always have to be about the nation you live in? Why not the planet you live on?

Originally posted by silver_tears

And I support the notion of Germany joining, because of it's influence in the world thus far, but what others would be included?

I think only countries that show great contributions to the world should be able to join.

Germany the country that brought the world Zyklon B, not just for rodents anymore...

If you are going to make great contributions a requirement... I think that you need to better define great contributions.

I recently heard a speaker at my university who is the UN ambassador from Sierra Leone. According to him the United Nations has a large part to play still, especially in developing countries and concerning issues of internation justice/international court system. He made a lot of interesting points, and I think more permanent members of the Security Council would be an improvement, and I think that Germany could be an important part of a new security council... i just had to say that they did contribute to a couple million innocent deaths in the last 70 years, but the USA's hands are not blood free either so I dunno...

UN should give N. Korea a break and let them join...........maybe.

Originally posted by WindDancer
UN should give N. Korea a break and let them join...........maybe.

Would they join even if they had the chance..

said "more" countries provide financial support because of people like finti's views that just because a country is small...they should do what they can.

Does it always have to be about the nation you live in? Why not the planet you live on