From what I've seen, he definitely has a form of consciousness or soul, so no.
Based on overall continuity this is my take:
If you have a person working a mechanical arm trying to lift Mjolnir, they'd fail. If you programmed a mechanical arm to lift Mjolnir without any human interaction needed for the operation etc. it would succeed.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Henshaw lift Mjolnir? K.
I personally don't agree with that, but it's come up on the forums before. It was an extremely high end feat for Hank and while I could see a writer having Hank somehow "get around" the enchantment, as a rule, I certainly don't think so. Especially if Thor is willing Mjolnir back.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How would Henshaw "get around" the enchantment exactly?
I would imagine it would be a prep feat, if anything, as he needed prep for the Source Wall. On the fly, if he used technopathy to make a machine or robot to pick up Mjolnir, I'd believe it. Henshaw on his own trying to lift the hammer with his own hand without any kind of explanation or prep would fail, imo.
That's a possible method. If he uses a mechanical machine besides himself it's possible but I still wouldn't bet on it. There is an intent to lift the hammer by someone not worthy who can be read by it. If telekinesis doesn't work etc. I don't think this tactic would work.
Saying "prep" doesn't answer my question. Unless he uses some gravity nullifying trick or something, I don't see how he'll overcome the enchantment.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's a possible method. If he uses a mechanical machine besides himself it's possible but I still wouldn't bet on it. There is an intent to lift the hammer by someone not worthy who can be read by it. If telekinesis doesn't work etc. I don't think this tactic would work.Saying "prep" doesn't answer my question. Unless he uses some gravity nullifying trick or something, I don't see how he'll overcome the enchantment.
Well, as Hank is one of the best technopaths in either DC or Marvel, I could see him somehow integrating with Mjolnir or other Asgardian artifacts as they can be argued to be highly advanced "alien" technology instead of being divine weaponry. Don't get me wrong: I personally don't see it happening myself, but I can see how it could happen in a comic book setting. Some writers eschew the whole magical/mystical god concept of the Asgardians and prefer to portray them more as highly advanced cosmic beings instead of mythological super-beings. As such, I can see Henshaw accomplishing it within the context of the story.
Forum setting? Definitely not plausible.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, as Hank is one of the best technopaths in either DC or Marvel, I could see him somehow integrating with Mjolnir or other Asgardian artifacts as they can be argued to be highly advanced "alien" technology instead of being divine weaponry. Don't get me wrong: I personally don't see it happening myself, but I can see how it could happen in a comic book setting. Some writers eschew the whole magical/mystical god concept of the Asgardians and prefer to portray them more as highly advanced cosmic beings instead of mythological super-beings. As such, I can see Henshaw accomplishing it within the context of the story.Forum setting? Definitely not plausible.
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Point me to a single issue that refers to Mjolnir as advanced alien technology instead of a mystical weapon of incredible power.
The closest thing even beginning to support that stance is that one page during Ellis' run that refers to Asgardians as advanced aliens. And on top of that, it was a page from a book that a Detective bought at a book store IIRC.
Asgardians have been written as more cosmic than viking esque at times, but they were still deities. They simply had a balanced mixture of advanced technology and mystical power. Ex: Jack Kirby's take.
Henshaw is not integrating with Mjolnir.
Let's say for arguments sake that a writer wrote Mjolnir as advanced technology, even then I wouldn't be completely certain he could do it. IIRC, he illustrated a limit in the recent Green Lantern Corps arc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😬Point me to a single issue that refers to Mjolnir as advanced alien technology instead of a mystical weapon of incredible power.
The closest thing even beginning to support that stance is that one page during Ellis' run that refers to Asgardians as advanced aliens. And it was a page of a book that some investigator got from a store.
Some of Bendis' Avengers oral histories as well as how Fraction is interpreting Asgardians points to their "magic" just being super advanced technology. Even old Kirby/Lee issues play around with that idea, iirc.
I personally feel the Asgardians should be portrayed more as gods in the conventional mythological sense than cosmic beings who were just "mistaken" for gods and ran with it.
Besides, the Source Wall itself can fit the bill for tech as well as being divine in origin.
I've seen dumber shit go down in comics and given Henshaw's history, it's not that wild. If anything, at best, he uses tech/machines to pick up Mjolnir than doing it himself or using technopathy and the like to "hack" Mjolnir.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Some of Bendis' Avengers oral histories as well as how Fraction is interpreting Asgardians points to their "magic" just being super advanced technology. Even old Kirby/Lee issues play around with that idea, iirc.
IIRC, there was one statement by Iron Man referring to them possessing extremely advanced technology far beyond what we have now. Unfortunately, that is even less evidence than the scene in Ellis' run.
Care to point to any examples from either Fraction's or Kirby's run?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally feel the Asgardians should be portrayed more as gods in the conventional mythological sense than cosmic beings who were just "mistaken" for gods and ran with it.
I think they should be a mixture of both. They should be shown using high tech weaponry and technology while possessing powerful magic.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Besides, the Source Wall itself can fit the bill for tech as well as being divine in origin.I've seen dumber shit go down in comics and given Henshaw's history, it's not that wild. If anything, at best, he uses tech/machines to pick up Mjolnir than doing it himself or using technopathy and the like to "hack" Mjolnir.
I consider Mjolnir as about as technological as the Infinity Gauntlet (Not a reference of power).
That's not an argument. Lol at hacking Mjolnir.
It's not advanced technology and I cannot imagine any writer treating it as such.
*shrug*
As I've said, I don't think it's likely to go down in a comic and if it did, it would likely go down as a high end feat for Hank much like the Source Wall feat was. Him "hacking" (which I find to be abundantly silly myself) Mjolnir isn't what's likely to go down if such a thing did happen. If anything it will be Hank using machines or other tech to pick up/use Mjolnir or Hank doing it himself with writer considering him more "machine than man", and both are far more plausible to go down in a comic than Henshaw directly taking Mjolnir over.
In a forum setting, no, I don't see Hank doing it period or at least enough for it to be considered a viable tactic.