Sabertooth Vs. Blade

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
again your using completely different arguement that are not comparable and trying to make them so. Ninja turtles have numerous apearences, they don't have feats of them being stated as superior to character and then showing it who then have feats that match all of wolverine. It not the same at all, come on your smarter then this.

I already posted one, were he stated and shows he faster then wolverine. that in it self is a feat, I dont get why you don't see this.

I know Creed is faster, but that is a statement. Spider-Man states he's 40x faster than a human, Reed says 15x. Wolverine said Spider-Man can break his neck. Wolverine was called simply a brawler.

I suck at this. 🙁

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not smarter than that. They have much less in the way of comic piss feats.

I know Creed is faster, but that is a statement. Spider-Man states he's 40x faster than a human, Reed says 15x. Wolverine said Spider-Man can break his neck. Wolverine was called simply a brawler.

I suck at this. 🙁

The reason they don't have these feats is becuase there not that good, They have numerous apearences and still have comics coming out to this day. That not the same as sabre-tooth at all.

You don't get it. He stated it, wolverine stated it, the narrative stated it which I have presented in this very thread, and he proved it. There not simply statements, there proven fact. It not hyperbole statement by a character, it fact stated by narrative and shown on pannel numerous times. .

Same thing with Liazard, are we to assume he avstly slower then Blade, because he has no projectile dodging feats?

You shouldn't have.

They have good feats. It's a matter of flagship characters having more. We use feats here, we can't flip flop on that rule master debator. You don't have to call me stupid because I don't get it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You shouldn't have.

They have good feats. It's a matter of flagship characters having more. We use feats here, we can't flip flop on that rule master debator.

I not flip floping at all. Sabre-tooth has proven and stated to be faster then wolverine. That clearly shows his level of speed. how am I flip floping?

again i notice you keep ignoring my lizard refference. so what you believe blade is vastly faster then lizard now?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Going by Dum Dum's logic Creed is faster than Wolverine who is as fast as Spidey which makes Creed faster than Spidey.

Gets better everyday.

Originally posted by Mindset
Are there even thousands of spider-man comics?

Originally posted by jinzin
That's not exclusive to triple D's logic.. It's how things are portrayed by Marvel comics.. I love how people are going to sit here and pretend otherwise though.

also I can pretty much garentee if this was Lizard there would be no one even argueing against lizard being as fast and faster then blade, but of course anything concern wolverine must be argued to death before it acknowledged lol.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not smarter than that. They have much less in the way of comic piss feats.

I know Creed is faster, but that is a statement. Spider-Man states he's 40x faster than a human, Reed says 15x. Wolverine said Spider-Man can break his neck. Wolverine was called simply a brawler.

I suck at this. 🙁

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
not really, there feats arnt even elite street. we had this debate and you tried posting volume 1 and 2 of the turtle which had them doing nothing by fighting common thugs mostly. Turtles feats are garbage. current runs are the only things even comparable to elite street characters and even then nothing that even hits there high end feats. turtles best feats are mid level elite street.

I not flip floping at all. Sabre-tooth has proven and stated to be faster then wolverine. That clearly shows his level of speed. how am I flip floping?

again i notice you keep ignoring my lizard refference. so what you believe blade is vastly faster then lizard now?

Because we're using a feat contest with one character and not with another. Now we are comparing that character to a "weaker" version which isn't allowed.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You shouldn't have.

They have good feats. It's a matter of flagship characters having more. We use feats here, we can't flip flop on that rule master debator. You don't have to call me stupid because I don't get it.

So blades faster than Lizard?

Originally posted by jinzin
It's not just a statement... It's been in narrative.

I'm not even arguing Creed being faster than Logan. I'm just waiting on the feats that usually come about in other debates.

Originally posted by jinzin
So blades faster than Lizard?

Again all his feats are inclusive of his performances against other characters... We've already made mention of his feats against Spiderman himself and people felt apt to dismiss it.

Using Wolverine as a bar is the most logical thing to do with a character that doesn't have fodder feats at random...

By the argumentation you're proposing Blade's faster than Lizard.

Originally posted by jinzin
Again all his feats are inclusive of his performances against other characters... We've already made mention of his feats against Spiderman himself and people felt apt to dismiss it.

Using Wolverine as a bar is the most logical thing to do with a character that doesn't have fodder feats at random...

By the argumentation you're proposing Blade's faster than Lizard.

Spider-Man came in and put the X-Men on their ass before. He used his speed obviously and it is a greater feat by far. There were situations in it however regardless of whether either party likes either feat.

I was trying to stay on topic though. So here is my best shot:

With Blade and Sabes. I see Sabes having an advantage if Blade doesn't have any gear. Blade's luck depends on what gear he's using IMO.

He's the same as Sabretooth in a sense. He has limited appearances and it isn't wafting with random speed feats. We get his speed levels from his performances.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yes.

Originally posted by jinzin
He's the same as Sabretooth in a sense. He has limited appearances and it isn't wafting with random speed feats. We get his speed levels from his performances.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What? I posted some feats of them dodging "lasers" in a fight. They weren't common thugs by any means. Better than that canon fodder stuff that's posted on here.

dude turtles cannon fodder are the worst....honestly man when was the last time you read there comics? espically there old stuff, nothing in there is impressive by any means, in fact most of it drawn like a little kid did it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
As we mentioned before the Forever movie put everything canon as one interactive universe anyways. They have muuuch more to draw from and are more flushed out.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Because we're using a feat contest with one character and not with another. Now we are comparing that character to a "weaker" version which isn't allowed.

again were still relying on characters feats.

again I notice that your ignoring lizard comment, because well lets be frank you know im right and you dont have arguement for it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The "blitzing" while Spider-Man was running his flap isn't congruent to what would go on in a KMC matchup as there would be no posturing. The problem with using such logic is that everything is so situational, when you cross it over between other characters it becomes a mess.

It's easy to dismiss them due to situational mumbojumbo which is why I'll say again, being faster than Sabretooth IS a speed feat and it gives us an idea of what Blade's dealing with...

Originally posted by Mindset
source?