Sabertooth Vs. Blade

Originally posted by llagrok
What is with the insulting of Sabretooth? What if we started using the N word to describe Blade? Wouldn't be very nice now would it.?

All of Sabretooth's appearances in Wolverine comics, from 60-160+ have depicted him of being great at plotting, and pretty much having the intellectual advantage. He's always manipulating Wolverine into doing what he wants. Simply put, you lied. Provide an example where I'm wrong.

No one below class 50 would be capable of physically knocking out Rogue or taking it to Warbird.

Creed manipulating Logan is not impressive as it's pretty obvious how Logan feels about him. Those tactics would not work on Blade.

Originally posted by llagrok

No one below class 50 would be capable of physically knocking out Rogue or taking it to Warbird.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't care what you say about Blade. So do what you will. Sticks and stones son.

Creed manipulating Logan is not impressive as it's pretty obvious how Logan feels about him. Those tactics would not work on Blade.

Most of the time, Logan doesn't know that Sabretooth is involved, that's the whole point of it being a plot and such.

Anyways, you basically lied. You can't provide any example where Sabretooth is acting like a retard. Save when Wolverine actually cut off a piece of his brain.

Originally posted by llagrok
Most of the time, Logan doesn't know that Sabretooth is involved, that's the whole point of it being a plot and such.

Anyways, you basically lied. You can't provide any example where Sabretooth is acting like a retard. Save when Wolverine actually cut off a piece of his brain.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Retard is your word, not mine. I said he's a drooling animal.

You claimed that he had been depicted as such lately?

There's the recent issues in Wolverine where he is killed, and his "feral nature" is messing up. Got any other issues? You're still a liar it seems.

Still waiting...

Originally posted by llagrok
You claimed that he had been depicted as such lately?

There's the recent issues in Wolverine where he is killed, and his "feral nature" is messing up. Got any other issues? You're still a liar it seems.

Originally posted by llagrok
Still waiting...

Anyways I already stated I have not read all of Creed's appearances like you obviously have. In X-Men 160's or so he was portrayed as a lapdog or a follower. Take your pick. I will say that in Open Season he was portrayed fairly well but I think that whole story was kinda poorly written. Like him knocking down Sasquatch with a wooden shovel.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Blade isn't a "master" martial artist. He even in the same ballpark as guys like Shang Chi, DD, IF, Cap or Wolverine... he likely isn't in the same ballpark as the Punisher.

And Sabretooth is throwing punches WAY above his strength class, that's one of the benifits of crazy amounts of skill and experience. Normal humans have thrown punches with more then a 1000lbs of preasure... now imagine how hard a comic book character who is expontially more skilled then any human being on earth and can bench 20tons is going to hit. Adamantium or not Blade gets torn apart with minimal effort.

Blade is a master martial artist proficient in practically every form of weaponry known to man. His particular specialty is the use of edged weapons, be they teakwood daggers or swords. Blade is a master in the use of small bladed weapons and can hurl knives with great accuracy.

Like i said in my original post.....(without adamantium) 2 MASTER martial artists fight, and one has his favoured weapon - (katana), then i give the bout to him.

Sword > Flesh (and the fanboys scream in unison -HEALING FACTOR-) yes he has a healing factor, but Blade isn't going for superficial wounds here, he's not grazing a forearm with his MASTERFUL sword wielding abilities..he is chopping OFF LIMBS!

Now if you dispute that Sword > flesh then i just cant argue you're not all there in the mind, but if your argument is that blade wont be able to get a hit in in the first place, well then thats a diferent argument.

Now bare in mind ive been taking note of some of the objectors to what ive said, and i saw a few farmiliar names in another thread.

Those of you who are saying blade wouldnt get a hit in because he isnt as fast as creed HYPOCRITICALLY posted that Cap USA WOULD get a hit in if he faced Spider-man, and Spidey's agility to caps, is the difference = with Sabres to Blade..maybe a little less. so it stands to reason Blade woud get a couple of swipes at least.. no?

But with Adamantium it does become a stomp.
-2 cents-

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
in his fights with wolverine usually they seem to...forget many of their martial arts capabilities and just try to bleed each other out, hacking and slashing wildly, and thats before sabertooth went feral

Like Wolverine mentioned in their fight in the weapon x complex, it was just a brutal ballet. They don't think or do anything, just lose control. That's the only way they can keep up with eachother. Martial Arts are nearly useless in fights like that.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sorry dude. I acutally have other things to do with my time. Like watch Kimbo Slice fight.

Anyways I already stated I have not read all of Creed's appearances like you obviously have. In X-Men 160's or so he was portrayed as a lapdog or a follower. Take your pick. I will say that in Open Season he was portrayed fairly well but I think that whole story was kinda poorly written. Like him knocking down Sasquatch with a wooden shovel.

I wanted a quick reply because I was going to bed, time zones, etc 😛

Anyways, Sabretooth's own mini was god awful. There is no way in hell Sabretooth woudl beat Wendigo like that, at least not in my opinion. Either way, a lot of Sabretooth's low mental showings has been a result of his mutation. The majority of his showings, depict him with well above average intellect.

Like Wolverine mentioned in their fight in the weapon x complex, it was just a brutal ballet. They don't think or do anything, just lose control. That's the only way they can keep up with eachother. Martial Arts are nearly useless in fights like that.

martial arts are PERFECT for fights like that, whne your opponent isnt htinking, thats how heroes like spiderman and black panther have managed t oget the better of most of their opponents (including wolverine at some times) even wolverine knows he usually fights better when in control rather than in a berserk rage

I believe if sabretooth were in a rage it would make it a lot easier than if he werent (when thinking clearly he has faught much better such as when he disposed of sinisters army of supermen)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
martial arts are PERFECT for fights like that, whne your opponent isnt htinking, thats how heroes like spiderman and black panther have managed t oget the better of most of their opponents (including wolverine at some times) even wolverine knows he usually fights better when in control rather than in a berserk rage

I believe if sabretooth were in a rage it would make it a lot easier than if he werent (when thinking clearly he has faught much better such as when he disposed of sinisters army of supermen)

They would be, but their speed is on such a level that martial arts won't make a difference :/

Originally posted by llagrok
They would be, but their speed is on such a level that martial arts won't make a difference :/

they let their hatred for eaach other control their actions (but sabertooth usually takes the win because he usually manipulates wolverine into a bersekrer rage)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
if you have equal speed, martial arts would make ALL the difference, a big/quick guy vs. a big/quick guy with martial arts, who do yo uthink will win?

they let their hatred for eaach other control their actions (but sabertooth usually takes the win because he usually manipulates wolverine into a bersekrer rage)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
martial arts are PERFECT for fights like that, whne your opponent isnt htinking, thats how heroes like spiderman and black panther have managed t oget the better of most of their opponents (including wolverine at some times) even wolverine knows he usually fights better when in control rather than in a berserk rage

I believe if sabretooth were in a rage it would make it a lot easier than if he werent (when thinking clearly he has faught much better such as when he disposed of sinisters army of supermen)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
if you have equal speed, martial arts would make ALL the difference, a big/quick guy vs. a big/quick guy with martial arts, who do yo uthink will win?

they let their hatred for eaach other control their actions (but sabertooth usually takes the win because he usually manipulates wolverine into a bersekrer rage)

If you've ever seen a fight between to martial artists you'd know the majority of the fight, isn't actually fighting, but two guys circling each other; they both want to find an opening and the hit the other guy without getting hit themselves (because one good punch can end a fight). There is no place for that style of combat with Wolverine and Sabretooth, both of them have no need for any sort of defence and concentrate wholly of offensive without it being detrimental. It's not the speed of the combatants that renders any martial arts obsolete, rather the breakneck pace of the battle. It's full out, balls to the wall, combat in close quarters with no breaks and no chances for the other guy to take his breath.

When Wolverine and Sabretooth go into a berserker rage, they become prefect killing machines, two forces of nature that act on pure instinct with no conscious thought. In such a state martial arts becomes obsolete because they have achieved what every martial art strives for.

A quote from the Dark Tower... I think it applies here.

"They are killers by an instinct that needs no honing."

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
if you have equal speed, martial arts would make ALL the difference, a big/quick guy vs. a big/quick guy with martial arts, who do yo uthink will win?

they let their hatred for eaach other control their actions (but sabertooth usually takes the win because he usually manipulates wolverine into a bersekrer rage)

Wolverine is way faster and more brutal in feral mode, martial arts won't work because he's too unpredictable. That's why Sabretooth has no choice but to feral up and duke it out.

When has that ever happened by the way?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
wrong..........making Logan go berserker does not help sabertooth it actually would hinder him. Logan stats are amp while berserker and he retains all his fighting knowledge and tactical mind

LOL, "blade vs. Sabretooth"
😂

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
I have comics in which sabertooth easily manipulates wolverine because he doesnt think in berserker mode

No... you don't. 😐