people 'dont' buy the album after listening to one song.. they just wind up downloading the rest of the album lol.. I think you're being a little too
impulsive making a statement of that nature. You're basically demeriting music by saying it takes no work whatsoever and that video game developers pour their sweat and blood into it for years, which makes pirating music ok... which is why I think thats silly. Seeing how music and video games go quite hand-in-hand, I find it hard to think anything other than that they both take tremendous effort and talent.
Originally posted by dean7879lol why so they can fill thier own greedy pockets with 90% of the income?
comon...theres more important things goin on in the world to worry about some rich ass company losing some money......if u really wanna spend ya money on somethin importatnt then givre some money to charity....
Originally posted by forumcrew
you can get the leak and still buy the game when it comes out.. theres noting wrong with playing the leaked version on a modded xbox for a few weeks to check it out before you buy it
my point exactly
microsoft aint gonna lose much money cos the game is in french..
people will want it in english..so people will buy it anyway
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
thats the silliest comparison Ive heard... its not ok to do either because they both take a crapload of money to make. But whatever makes you feel better about downloading music 😉
Again, people who know nothing assume shit about me.
I don't have any downloaded music on my computer. I did on my last computer, but I got so much spyware and so many viruses, that I got tired of it.
Of course there's an exception to every statement. You say that people just end up downloading the whole album. This isn't necessarily true, as I have downloaded a song for an artist i wasn't sure I would like, and then bought the album because I liked them(then I'd probably see them live). Now, If an artist I usually dislike makes one song I like, then they aren't seeing a penny from me, I would just DL the song I like.
Downloading a song or two that you love from an artist is A-OK by me. Downloading entire albums, entire movies, and entire video games are not exactly the same thing.
Though, the exception to the video game thing is downloading a relativly old/rare video game that you just can't seem to find anywhere else. That should be fine.
Anyway, this isn't a thread on ethics, so whatever.
Originally posted by dean7879
my point exactlymicrosoft aint gonna lose much money cos the game is in french..
people will want it in english..so people will buy it anyway
man how you guys miss the bigger picture.
How would you have felt if say...you spent YEARs writing the 5th Harry potter book, working your butt of just to maintain TOTAL plot secrecy, when some idiot goes and post the plot on the internet? The whole book is generally ruined. Halo 2's plot is one of the most well kept secrets in the industry right now. all they will tell us is the covenant invade earth...thats it....keeping the rest a mystery.
It still ruins the general WOW factor of playing a new game.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Again, people who know nothing assume shit about me.I don't have any downloaded music on my computer. I did on my last computer, but I got so much spyware and so many viruses, that I got tired of it.
Of course there's an exception to every statement. You say that people just end up downloading the whole album. This isn't necessarily true, as I have downloaded a song for an artist i wasn't sure I would like, and then bought the album because I liked them(then I'd probably see them live). Now, If an artist I usually dislike makes one song I like, then they aren't seeing a penny from me, I would just DL the song I like.
Downloading a song or two that you love from an artist is A-OK by me. Downloading entire albums, entire movies, and entire video games are not exactly the same thing.
Though, the exception to the video game thing is downloading a relativly old/rare video game that you just can't seem to find anywhere else. That should be fine.
Anyway, this isn't a thread on ethics, so whatever.
I'd also love to know how this thread is 'not' about ethics.. Im pretty sure this thread was made for us to go "Ohh! bad illegal pirate downloading thugs!".. or am I wrong?. I think code leaks/master copy leaks is an issue that has been troubling gamers more and more as games take longer to develop.
Originally posted by forumcrew
the game also has almost 2 million copies already sold..how would you feel if you pre-ordered it then had to wait a year cause of delays to get it.. youd take a chance to play a copy for a few weeks. and halo is about multiplayer so theyd still wanna own it and load it up on xbox live
hey yah, great idea, downloading an illegal copy, right up their with paying off a 100,000 dollar fine.
(and ruining the completely awsome story halo 2 has)
also can we PLZ stop talking about music, this isnt the thread to do so.(this is the thread, to mock the stupid french people....who downloaded it)
People 're just gonna think: "Oh WOW...I don't care if Halo 2 is in FRENCH...I just want to PLAY it!."
So yes, that would be one helluva big dissapointment for Bungie/Microsoft.
Bungie:"How did they get that in the first place?"
Bungie Worker:"Here, guys.(Hands out games) Don't tell boss. I'll have my head handed to me if someone fines out."
I refere you to my previous statement...
Originally posted by Robo-Chocobo
How would you have felt if say...you spent YEARs writing the 5th Harry potter book, working your butt of just to maintain TOTAL plot secrecy, when some idiot goes and post the plot on the internet? The whole book is generally ruined. Halo 2's plot is one of the most well kept secrets in the industry right now. all they will tell us is the covenant invade earth...thats it....keeping the rest a mystery.
It still ruins the general WOW factor of playing a new game.
I think we can all agree rightn now...TO BLAME THE FRENCH!! 😈
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
k so you say I'm assuming things but you say clearly in each post that you have had downloaded music before (something you're against by the way 😂 ) , but then you try to sugar coat it by playing the good samaritan and buying the album after listening to 'just one song'... and then there are people who 'dont deserve' your money because they only have one song you like (of whose music you download freely as well).. Also I never said they are the same thing, but I was mentioning that they both take time and talent to create. To put it metaphorically, I suppose your outlook on things would be "Meh, its ok to cut someone and make em bleed.. as long as you dont kill em.. its clearly not the same thing." Maybe you 'are' the good samaritan, but you shouldnt expect people to buy (or maybe even download 🙄 ) your story. I also want to make clear that I'm not attacking you.. Im just highlighting a piece of the discussion that I found to be invalid.. thats all.I'd also love to know how this thread is 'not' about ethics.. Im pretty sure this thread was made for us to go "Ohh! bad illegal pirate downloading thugs!".. or am I wrong?. I think code leaks/master copy leaks is an issue that has been troubling gamers more and more as games take longer to develop.
No, it isn't invalid. It's just something you don't understand, because I'm a little twisted(to some people), and so are my morals.
Yes, cut someone, make them bleed, give them a band aid, but don't kill them. Exactly.
Anyway, I used downloading music as a way to sample an album before I bought it. Yes, if I liked the artist I bought the album. The way I see it is, their whole job depends on people like me. If I like them, then they get my money. If I don't then, they don't see shit from me. I suppose you buy albums you don't like just for one song?
"k so you say I'm assuming things but you say clearly in each post that you have had downloaded music before (something you're against by the way 😂 )"
I like this part here. You've never heard of anyone changing their minds before, huh? Odd. People do it all the time. I italicized where you use different tenses. Past tense, as in I USED to be ok with downloading music, and then present tense, where you see I'm against it now.
And no, this isn't a thread on ethics. it's about how Halo 2 got leaked, and now the fun is spoiled.
Originally posted by dean7879
well maybe microsoft should be more careful who they employ next time.
(All standing in front of the Master Chief's statue in cafeteria...it's true.)
CEO:"Hold up yer' right hands....that's yer' left, Simmons."
Simmons:"Oops...sorry, sir."
CEO:"Repeat after me. I hereby solemley swear not to leak any relevant information directly related to the Halo games, unless my superiors allow me to with written confirmation."
(All repeat except for Simmons)
Simmons:"Wait, wait....what was that again, sir?"
Sarge: ... the powers that be have seen fit to inform you about the upcoming campaign.
Simmons: finally some information
church: great whats the big scoop?
Sarge: that the campaign is going to be great, and that your really going to enjoy it.
*Screen looks at all the speechless men*
Sarge: that..is all. thank you for your ti-
Church: wait, thats it? that were going to enjoy it?
Sarge: No, that your REAAAALLLY going to enjoy it..oh and a part about it being great.
Tucker: what about the other stuff, like who are we fighting?
Sarge: I'm sorry, everything else is classified.
CHurch: what about weapons?
Sarge: ...weapons..theeiirrrr gona be GREAT.
Church: great, what are they?
Sarge: that information is only given out to people with the proper clearence.
Church: whats the proper clearence
Sarge: that information is only given on a need to know basis.
Church: do I need to know?
Sarge: thats top secret.