Captain America vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by FrothByte
his supersoldier serum doesn't allow his body to produce the toxins that results to fatigue, and thus he doesn't get tired for an extremely long time. ]

his body does produce muscle fatigueing poisons, just not on a level that you and i do. he does get tired, but much slower than the average person. by even saying he gets tired (even if it is after a long while) is contradictory to your first sentence saying his muscles dont produce the toxins.

Originally posted by FrothByte
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the super soldier serum also enhanced him physically to the peak of human perfection that no human would be able to reach by sheer training and practice alone. that's why i think he is stronger than wolvi. not that much to be a deciding factor, but still stronger and faster.

i know what his powers are. but thanks for the reminder 😉

No disrespect wolverine8888, but you need to try to use some better grammar in you're post, cause it's pretty difficult to understand what you're saying when you type out long paragraphs.

And, Wolverine is not stronger than Cap. His adamantium may help him support more weight than he normally would, but that doesn't mean he can lift heavy things regularly, kind of like what Havok said. Regardless, I still do think his fighting prowess could keep up with Cap's. Can't say who'd walk away in the end though.

Oh I'll help you then, Captain America

i think frothbyte meant that the toxins are secreted from cap's muscles but the serum subdues those toxins, in other words cancel it out, only after theres so much of it that it cant be subdued any longer, kind of like fighting the flu before you get it, and then getting the flu the next day

and as i think almost everyone would agree, wolverine is not stronger than captain america, i dont have the wolverine sig for nothing, i've read close to every damn comic he's ever appeared in, except the infamously stupid wolvie vs. MU, and a few others i still cant get my hands on

I like wolverine, but i get tired of people overestimating him because he says so. It's a cool part of his character but then people use it like it was some sort of law written in stone. I think these two are actually evenly matched, but Cap would take it in the end due to his superior tactics and resourcefulness.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
And no, there's no way that shield would get in the way, it is a perfect offensive/defensive weapon.

But caps shield can be stolen and used against him, whereas logans claws/skeleton cannot be stolen or used against him in combat

Sure, and anyone who actually tried to use that shield against would have the same training with it as him? Of course not. Cap would make a fool of anyone who tried it.

i could beat them both up.

how much does caps shield weigh, anyway??? 2 lbs?

I think the majority agrees that Captain America and Wolverine are very close in categories such as fighting skills, strength, and speed. There are some disagreements on who is superior in those categories, however most agree they are amazingly similar. Thus, the significant variables are:
Captain America: Unbreakable Shield
Wolverine: Regenerative healing factor, unbreakable bones and claws

I think Wolverine should win. But, what do I know? My logic is usually fairly weak.

there fighting skill about equal thou I personaly think wolverine better fighter. so there abotu equal in one thing right. thing is capt is peak human every thing wolverien is enchanced human or also called suphuman level 1. this is a big diffrence wolverine is good deal stronger more agil. and reflex. also he far far more durable and then u got his healing factor. capt over matched. also has capt ever been able to take on the hulk bye him self or even with people helping him he still getts destoryed. wlverien fights hulk all the time and has beaten him.

um, cap is just as strong or stronger than wolverine, wolverine does not have superhuman strength. cap is aslo a better fighter, but wolverine would win because of his healing

serouly wolverine has superhuman strenth or are u says the owners of marvel are lieing. look on wolverien page it has him on stat chart level 4 strenth, then look at the back of the book and it says level 4 is superhuman strength. level 3 is peak which is what captain is in the avengers hand book(the official handbook of the marvel universe x-men 2004).

That site chart is booty. Do I have to keep bringing up the Warmachine vs Mary Jane arm wrestling match being a tie according to the Marvel site?

Originally posted by wolverine8888
serouly wolverine has superhuman strenth or are u says the owners of marvel are lieing. look on wolverien page it has him on stat chart level 4 strenth, then look at the back of the book and it says level 4 is superhuman strength. level 3 is peak which is what captain is in the avengers hand book(the official handbook of the marvel universe x-men 2004).

Yes! Marvel lies! That's why forums like this exist.

I doesn't matter that Wolverine has a healing factor, Cap will get the job done. You think one of Marvel's most resourceful characters is going to sit around poking his nose thinking "well every time i hit him he heals so i'll just keep hitting him." While Wolverine on the other hand has done just that.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
serouly wolverine has superhuman strenth or are u says the owners of marvel are lieing. look on wolverien page it has him on stat chart level 4 strenth, then look at the back of the book and it says level 4 is superhuman strength. level 3 is peak which is what captain is in the avengers hand book(the official handbook of the marvel universe x-men 2004).

Alright man you asked for it....I'm a big Wolvie fan but he does not have super-human strength! Here is Wolvies strength according to Marvel Diectory:

Strength Level: While Wolverine may be of an advanced age, he possesses the normal human strength of a man in his prime with his height and build who engages in intensive regular exercise. While possessing the adamantium skeleton, Wolverine's strength was increased to the human maximum, making him capable of lifting (pressing) 800 lbs.

um u know. even though cap is slightly better at fighting, he still has many disadvantages. fer starters they are both at peak level human strength, {approx. 800lbs} but cap is 6,3 or sumthin in height and wolverine is 5,3. eventhough u might think that this is an advanyage fer cap, it isnt, cause if they have the same strength then wolvie will have a lower centre of gravity{this was also true fer bruce lee} also, cap is knowledgable of judo, american style karate and boxing, while wolvie has been a samurai and also has numerous other skills, also, his senses have been made superhuman, so he can see, hear, taste smell and touch things better than any human. ok now cap has the adamantium vibranium shield which logans adamantium laced claws cant penetrate, but other then that, if wolvie even took one slice at him or even a hit, cap will be a goner, not to mention that cap cant break or dislocate any of wolvies bones cause they are laced with adamantium, more so, if cap took a punch at wolvies ribs or any other boines, hed probably break his knucles cauyse of the adamantium, not to mention that wolvie would hit awful hard with those adamantium covered bones too. hey last but not least, wpolvie has a very strong healing factor which would instantly take care of any wounds he might recieve in unprotective or errrrrr sensitive areas, the only other advantage that cap has is his ability ti wear wolvie down cause cap does not get fatigue easily, so there are the facts and id say that wolvie wins

Here's the solution.

Cap. kicks his ever loving ass. No doubt. Beats him up worse than Sabertooh could. Then he hold him down under his shield while he draws and mixs his blood with a poison then transfers it into Wolverine. The solider serium overpowers his healing factor, laying Wolverine to rest.
Under the Shield his claws are harmless even if he comes to during the process.
Cap. is the better fighter of the two. He is far stronger than Wolverine.
Wolvie can lift like 300 pounds. His body weight carries the other 500 pounds in the adamintum bones he has. That is his max.
Cap can lift the full 800 pounds.
Wolverine has no super strength. 'nuff said. Animal senses which are like enhanced human senses. Nother words hes got the guts, but that don't get the job done.

Originally posted by Maelstrom
Cap. kicks his ever loving ass. No doubt. Beats him up worse than Sabertooh could. Then he hold him down under his shield while he draws and mixs his blood with a poison then transfers it into Wolverine. The solider serium overpowers his healing factor, laying Wolverine to rest.

Cap. is the better fighter of the two.

He is far stronger than Wolverine.

Wolvie can lift like 300 pounds. His body weight carries the other 500 pounds in the adamintum bones he has. That is his max.
Cap can lift the full 800 pounds.

Wolverine has no super strength.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I like wolverine, but i get tired of people overestimating him because he says so. It's a cool part of his character but then people use it like it was some sort of law written in stone. I think these two are actually evenly matched, but Cap would take it in the end due to his superior tactics and resourcefulness.