Originally posted by FrothByte
grrrr.... why isn't anyone considering my post asides from havoc? THOR...WOULD...BEAT...HULK!!! just for the mere fact that
pissed off thor + mighty mjolnir > pissed off hulk.
Well, partly because Thor doesn't use Mjolnir much, but that is a valid point. Even more, Pissed off Thor + Mjolnir + Runes > Pissed off Hulk.
Ok let me break it down for you----
1) If you noticed, Thor in his battles is always cautious of his surroundings, who is nearby. This is his major factor why he alway does not have the upperhand against Hulk.
2) Thor knows that Banner is a innocent man. Thor's noblity stops him.
In one issue Perrikus and adva attacked Asgard to dethrone King Thor, Perrikus of the Dark Gods told to Thor that thor was not brutal and cold enough to be a true warrior.
3) After some issues Cap America, Wolverine,Hulk, Thing, Dr Strange attack Asgard. Strange nullify King Thor's odinpowers thus is classic Thor. Wolverine sliced Thor's arm. Thor now fights a handicap match HANDICAPPED against Hulk and Thing. He killed them both. ( Thing was abit broken, HULK WAS IMPALED THRU THE STOMACH.) Thor could not have killed the Hulk, some might say (esp hulk fans). But the subject here is not " he could not have" but "he should not have" Thor evaded his reasonings of noblity (see 1 and 2) for a greater purpose, helping earth. Hulk's skin strength does not allow him to be killed in such a way some might argue. But we are talking abt Thor ( the only one i believe could match Hulk's unlimited strength, Hulk strongest is agreed in MU)
According to physics this could be done ( seeing Thor's strength). And many know that Hulk is one of fan favourite hero..... compared to Thor...why would MU let Hulk die in such a manner esp to THOR'S hand, coz it could happen, Marval know it. If you fail to believe this than you CAN believe BATMAN beat the HULK (i don believe this but Thor killed hulk i do). Hulk healing factor will keep the fight going to Hulk's adv. So only to beat Hulk is to kill him ( healing factor does not work in a dead body).
4) Classic Thor cracked a Celestial armor, who is Hulk compared to a Celestial.
Classic Thor scared Galactus away(fed or unfed big G is still a forced to be reckon with afterall Thor than is compared to a Herald), who is Hulk than.
If you noticed Thor never in his battle with Hulk used his Godforce. He seemed to have reserved it for those who are more powerful than him (Thanos, Celestial, Galactus) not using on hulk shows how the god of thunder view the engine of dustruction.
well another thing some ppl said take Thor's hammer he'll be wiped... well take gamma away from Hulk (banner's source of power) you'll get ]
BRUCE BANNER VS THOR W/O HAMMER.
what comic was that u were refering to with Hulk and Thing getting killed...u started by saying "after some issues"...then u lost me...was it what if or something?...U know being impaled would not normally kill Hulk right? and gamma radiation is not the source of Hulk's power, it is a byproduct of his power. He acquires energy and mass from a pocket dimension. Beyonder and the Living Tribunal have called Hulk limitless and a threat to the universe...who is a celestial to the Tribunal?...
Thor doesn't need his hammer anymore, Hulk isn't going to beat Thor even if he doesn't have Mjolnir.
Wynndar, I believe it was issue 73; Thor killed Thing, Hulk, Wolvie, and Captain America after they attacked him in Asgard. Impaling doesn't normally kill Hulk, but this was with the strength of Thor, plus it was after a major beatdown that Thor gave Hulk. It was mainstream, it's just that Thor later went back in time to before all this happened. This was a storyline where Thor took over Earth and called it New Asgard and the heroes attacked him because he was becoming tyrannical.
Actually Thor killed Hulk and Thing in Mighty Thor: Lord of Asgard issue 73. Thor's Odinpower was nullifed by Dr.Strange with the help of the Pantheon, which means he virtually the Classic Thor. Thor defeated them bot with one hand, without Mjolnir which shows Thor's ability to take on Hulk w/o hammer.
And if you check out Hulk's powers on Marvel web. Mavel did not state Hulk's skin power but healing factor, which cun work if the person is dead. I agree to Hulk limitless power, he top the chart of strength, but Thor's godlike strenght bring him close to the top of that chart, Thor is also faster than Hulk. See stats in Marvel again... given speed and strength penetrationis likely for the Hulk.
umm...so r u saying that since its not stated on marvel web its not a power? Hulk was blasted by Troma with a blast that went through Hulk and the planet and totally regenerated...he said the only side affect was that it itched for a little while. Hulk has a healing ability that would never allow him to him to die from being impaled...In The End, he regenerated from nothing but a skeleton on a regular basis. Maestro regenerated after being blown to particles. The continuity of this Thor 73 is laughable if it demonstrated Hulk being killed from a felsh wound. Thor's morals getting in his way? yea maybe...however, there have been times when he has totally cut loose, against the likes of Gladiator, Thanos, or when he had the warrior madness, he still wasnt unlimited in nature, not like Hulk.
Thor is top of the strength chart, the only thing is Hulk has no theoretical limit, which means his strength is capable of going OFF the charts. Normal strength-wise though, Thor tops out above them all. Hulk just has to get real ticked to reach a superior level of strength. But as you said, Thor is faster *and much more powerful.*
Technically they didn't say Hulk was dead, they just showed Hulk motionless on the floor having been impaled. Thus Thor did not necessarily kill Hulk via the impaling, if he killed him he could have done it another way. Hulk is capable of dying, just not very easily. Still, Thor is one of the few that can do it. He beat the crap out of him lol, that's really the only issue.
That's not true. Limits are defined by physical boundaries. Yet Hulk's strength has transcended the boundaries of reality. He draws power from other universes for his strength, thus there's no real limit as there's no limit to a universe. Marvel has actually stated there's no actual limitation to Hulk's strength and power, and they pointed out during the Onslaught saga where Hulk went nuts that it was only a glimpse into his capabilities.
Hm, being a Hulk fan, even I never bought the "Hulks strength is endless" theory. Everything has a limit. Hulks strength and anger are no exception (the limit is, in my opinion, not yet shown, but that's another story).
You can not "get madder and madder and even more madder and even more madder" ad infinitum. It doesn't work that way. It consumes lots of energy and troubles one's thinking. At some point, you're as angry as you can be, and that's the end of it.
But Hulk has never reached whatever 'limit' he may have. He can consistently get angrier every time he goes up against someone who proves to be too powerful. Onslaught is pretty much the top villain he's faced and he proved his strength was sufficient to rip him apart. If he were to face an opponent more powerful, then his strength would reach a higher limit. Thus whatever limitations that would exist are basically defined by whatever or whomever he's facing.
As for the Hulk vs. Thor, Hulk is capable of greater strength, but that does not mean he's going to rip Thor apart. Thor has far greater powers at his command than Hulk. If it's an arm-wrestling contest, Hulk wins. But in a fight, Thor would take Hulk out before he's 'torn in two.'
I agree with Wolverine88888888888888 and Cosmo on that list, lol.