Here it is, Hulk vs Gladiator

I understand you're entitled to your own opinion but when you go off and say, The hulk wasn't "impressive" enough in the movie just urked the hell out of me..

For one: What would you like the hulk to do that would "impress" you in the movie!? What did the hulk "lack" in the movie that he did in the comics!? What is your standards of an impressive hulk!?

Hell he posessed all the factors that he had in the comics in my opinion, the jumping great distances at a time, the infinitely increasing strength when ticked off, the giant-troll like size, the "you don't like me when I'm angry mentality", the classic "HULK SMASH!?" dialogue, shaking off nukes, tank blasts and bullets...damn they did the hulk character down to a tee if you asked me..But to you its not "impressive" enough struck me like "damn, what more do you want?", but I did come off alittle too mild in my post and I do apologize for that, I get so into the debates that I come off as an ******* a lot..😛 indeed I regret saying some of those colorful verbal attacks...

He never said he wasn't "impressive enough", he simply said he wasn't nearly as impressive as his comic counterpart, which he wasn't. Why would you have such a big problem with that? After all, it's true. Now, I'm not gonna go all out and come up with 50 different ways it could've been better (although I could come up with an idea or two), cause I personally liked the movie myself, even with it's flaws. The same with Spider-Man (which he wasn't as witty as his comic counterpart, but I still think Toby Maguire fits the role well, imo), X-Men (which could've had a few tweeks done, like Wolverine's enemies be more personal with him), Blade, Punisher (which was good cause they REALLY made it personal with wiping out his entire family, but I still think it should've been based in New York), etc. Any comic movie could be made better, doesn't mean we don't like most of them regardless.

Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
I understand you're entitled to your own opinion but when you go off and say, The hulk wasn't "impressive" enough in the movie just urked the hell out of me..

do i care?? no... i was just trying to make a point. you are saying "use the cartoons" when i'm saying if we do that then we would just pit person x from a comic against person x from a movie. which wouldnt be fair because movie versions are often not as powerful as the comic book counterpart... get over it...

Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ

For one: What would you like the hulk to do that would "impress" you in the movie!? What did the hulk "lack" in the movie that he did in the comics!? What is your standards of an impressive hulk!?

hulk was just much more formidable in the comics... i wasnt trying to compare them. i was just saying to do what YOU want to do, then we would also have to do this.

Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ

Hell he posessed all the factors that he had in the comics in my opinion, the jumping great distances at a time, the infinitely increasing strength when ticked off, the giant-troll like size, the "you don't like me when I'm angry mentality", the classic "HULK SMASH!?" dialogue, shaking off nukes, tank blasts and bullets...damn they did the hulk character down to a tee if you asked me..But to you its not "impressive" enough struck me like "damn, what more do you want?", but I did come off alittle too mild in my post and I do apologize for that, I get so into the debates that I come off as an ******* a lot..😛 indeed I regret saying some of those colorful verbal attacks...

i was simply trying to make a point. to use a cartoon is rather dumb because then we could use a number of different versions of any character.

lets compare apocalypse from the cartoon to hulk from the movie. now this fight can be compared from dusk till dawn (both from comic books) but comparing different versions this fight is rather lopsided. hulk was just a crude brawler in the movie that could just jump really far. but in the cartoon apocalypse was wiping out entire parts of reality to "recreate" the universe in his image so that he was the ALL MIGHTY. now does that seem fair?? hmm i'd say NOT.

if you are going to compare comic book x person, please compare the opponent in comic book form. and 1 step farther, please compare opponents from the same reality. because different realities contain different components.

Alright i've waverd on this seeing as there are tons of Hulk fans and many anti-gladiator peps out there.
My opinion is Gladiator has Hulk beat by twice the amount of the Hulk himself. He got double what the Hulk has and would rip him apart as easy as he would a star. I don't believe even the green skin can stand up to someone who can tear through a star.
Now, is Gladiator vulnerable to radiation. If someone wants to expand on that go for it.

He's vulnerable to certain kinds of radiation. Kallark chased after the Skrull ship to Earth where he fought the FF. The Skrulls changed into the X-Men and Gladiator was kicking their asses. But what they used to hurt him with was some kind of radiation weapon. It really put a hurting on the guy. The way I see it, since Gladiator is a Superman clone, certain kinds of radiation hurting Kallark would be the same as Kryptonite radiation hurting Superman.

How Hulk knew Kallark was weak to certain kinds of said radiation...is beyond me. ...maybe Hulk can mind read now. 🙄

Since I dont own the comic book and ahve only read parts of it that were scanned...Im assuming that Rick Jones' grandaughter probably told Hulk info about GLadiator like the radiation thing...if he didnt know it already, as the Leader of the Pantheon, Hulk had learned about everyone who posed a threat to Earth.

Originally posted by Maelstrom
Alright i've waverd on this seeing as there are tons of Hulk fans and many anti-gladiator peps out there.
My opinion is Gladiator has Hulk beat by twice the amount of the Hulk himself. He got double what the Hulk has and would rip him apart as easy as he would a star. I don't believe even the green skin can stand up to someone who can tear through a star.
Now, is Gladiator vulnerable to radiation. If someone wants to expand on that go for it.

oh oh, when you say that you are also basically saying that Superman can beat the Hulk!

good luck

Originally posted by Wynndar
Since I dont own the comic book and ahve only read parts of it that were scanned...Im assuming that Rick Jones' grandaughter probably told Hulk info about GLadiator like the radiation thing...if he didnt know it already, as the Leader of the Pantheon, Hulk had learned about everyone who posed a threat to Earth.

That would make more sense, to me anyways.

I just joined and skipped past the middle thousand posts on this topic so I don't know if anyone's already said this... it seemed to me that hulk knew about his vulnerability to radiation because glad was hurt by his own optic blast. Wasn't that some kind of radiation?

Also, that marvel/dc crossover with hulk and super man (one of only about 20 or so comics I've actually read) just doesn't make sense to me. As I recall, hulk first punches superman and superman gets knocked like a mile in the air. Then supe comes back and says he "wasn't ready" Then when hulk punches him again, he can't budge him. If supe has such extraordinary speed, how can he "not be ready" for a punch from hulk, who doesn't have super speed? With super speed, shouldn't he have super reflexes as well? Anyway, I saw you guys had cited tons of other examples where battles, or at least aspects of them, didn't turn out as they seemingly should have. With all that, doesn't it make sense to put just a little less emphasis on how biased and sometimes illogical battles turn out and more on what the actual stated and "proven" powers of the characters are?

I also have an example with gladiator of how biased these battles can be. It's from the (don't laugh) 90's x-men cartoon and it's when juggernaut punches gladiator but doesn't budge him, and then glad turns around and chucks juggernaut about a mile away. That's fine, but at least twice in the same episode and in other episodes as well, rogue is shone knocking gladiator around, and rogue is clearly not a match for either of them in terms of sheer strength. I guess this is another example of "not being ready," but it shouldn't happen, in my opinion. I think it's obvious that they let rogue get in a few good hits against gladiator purely because she's one of the main characters in the show. This has got to be true in a bunch of comics. The character who has his name in the comic series will probably win more often than not. (I'm sure you guys can give tons of examples of when I'm wrong...)

Finally, I guess I'll weigh in on the topic: I think gladiator would probably win the fight, just considering what I know about their powers.

hulk is my definite favorite of the two, though. Planet smashing powers are just too much for someone who's more or less considered one of the good guys. In battles they'll always have to be holding back or not using their full potential just to make battles interesting, and when that gets dull, new villains have to be created to be in their league. Then you get into a dragon ball Z scenario where the heroes keep getting much stronger so they have to keep on inventing brand new villains to be a major challenge, and that gets lame fast.

I reeeeeally want that book. I bet it'll be worth a ton of cash someday. If it's not all ready.

hulk has smashed an asteroid twice the size of earth in 1 punch!!!!as grey hulk!!!!!, gladiator seems to me like marvel get their own back on dc for having such a gay superhero ( superman), so good on hulk for showing whos truly the power monster, also i dont remember a comic where hulk was trashed by supes, i even remember 1 where hulk is knocked under a mountain by a punch that takes everything out of supes, supes is about to flyoff but sees hulks arm push through and stares in absalute amazement, was a bit of a draw that 1

rsl

it seemed to me that hulk knew about his vulnerability to radiation because glad was hurt by his own optic blast. Wasn't that some kind of radiation?

Getting hurt by your own attack doesn't translate to much. If his blast was some kind of radiation, his eyes would swell up every time he uses this power. And even IF it was radiation, how would Hulk be able to tell that it was radiation?

Gladiator's powers are directly related to his confidence. Characters like Thor, The Hulk... and Cannonball have no business touching Glads, let alone harming him when he is feeling confident.

Glads needs a mini... and a new hair cut.

cant we just accept it was a slugfest and those always favour hulk

Maybe, but with all of Gladiator's advantages, it's more in favor of him than it is Hulk.

Gladiator looks cooler, is more versatile, more honorable, calculative, loyal, etc. etc.I would want gladiator to win in a rematch, as a matter of fact I want to see some Gladiator comics....Strictly Kallark handing a bunch of perpetrating aliens their asses..

realistically, kallark should be able to make quick work of the julk. after all he's way stronger than hulk when hulk isnt mad, and it would take at the very least a few minutes to get up to G's level.

however, as was expressed in the original, original superman vs Hulk thread. the reason it wouldnt be a thrilling fight is bcuz the comics wouldnt sell. any good comic battle should last at least one issue, and it shoulndt be one sided. so if some writer were to come along and say ok, gladiator swoops in at hyperspeed and lands 10000 punches in a nano sec and rips hulks face off that would be less than one page, and no body wants to see that.

and the fact that hulk is the good guy, and good guys are always supposed to win plus the fact that the only time you hear about kallark is when the entire sh'iar is involved. hence a third string character, there is no way that a third string not so popular charcter will ever be portrayed to beat the hulk. but if everyone should put all the petty fanboy bulls hit aside you'll see that by all means G should win. Im not saying that it would be an easy win but, he just still would.

and BTW not to get on anyone's case but could some of you pllleeeeaaaase use more than one paragraph when you post? its kinda hard to read something when its in one big chunk like that.

dont underestimate hulks chances of winning, especially when he is pissed, supes himself ( god i hate those cross overs) has admitted physically to not being able to overcome hulk and e all know what dc s hulk did to supes . gladiator is immensley powerful, but hulk mad is healing like mad, getting immeasurably strong so glad hitting him 1000000 times a sec could be as irritataing as a mosquito buzzing against hulks skin, i think most of glads powers would be useful in helping him GET AWAY from the raging hulk, rather than do much more than piss him right off

Rouge beat the hell out of Gladiator. Hulk would pulverize him.