Here it is, Hulk vs Gladiator

As much as reasoning and logic "should" decide Gladiator the winner it just ain't going to happen. Surely glad has more versatility, intellect, and battle tactics and skill to defeat the hulk but like I've already stated Gladiator is just too supermanish to beat Marvel's top-tier..

You must remember Glad was made to mock Superman and if you really think about it, Gladiator has never "really" beaten down a Marvel impact player such as Spiderman,when I say defeat I mean just simply comes in beats this character down with the quickness and jet it..comic over...it seems Glad is "always" defeated in some form.

Now recall his previous battles with Thor, he did indeed have Masterson beat BUT by some instance Thor calls on an outside force(living lightning) resulting in Gladiator getting toppled, same with cannonball, although cannonball didn't really phase Gladiator with his absorbing blow he still sent him flying whilsdt Gladiator just ignored him and never really "showed" us he could have crushed Cannonball with one blow. Let's not even go into this hulk battle, I agree that they indeed made Gladiator out to fight like a mindless idiot, not utilizing his speed at all and what for?? to contribute to the make Gladiator lose just so fans can somehow "reason" Superman losing in the same manner foundation..Don't be surprised if Juggernaut, Magneto or Apocalypse make Gladiator look a fool in comics to come...Don't put your chips on Gladiator because he's a character designed for lost..Every now and then he'll have some stalemate here and there but he "never" really wins a one on one brawl..

Face it, I actually "like" Gladiator as I feel he's a cool(although rip-off) character..If Superman could own most of these heroes then so could Gladiator BUT since marvel has Gladiator as a mock character you're going to be forced to see him outwitted, outmatched and clobbered just so Superman could look like a fool, its a damn shame Glad has the potential to be a kickass character...I can almost "guarantee" you he'll never really beat down a impact player character not even the obviously weaker ones such as Spider-man or Cap'n America..

true dat, they just do it to say, see if he cant him then supes cant do it either. i wonder if the creators actually had potential debates in mind when they did that

it doesnt matterhow many powers glad has if theyre not hulk toppling ones theyre irrelevant, laser eyea, ets are no use against hulk, super speed would be of use to fly away quicker. hulk is more than capable of beating anyone and he did in the comic this time so well done marvel, just goes to show that just cos u have a large array of poweers doesnt work when u face a superior opponent

basically they have to make Glad not use his powers and act like an idiot for hulk to beat him. Thats very funny especially when hulk is the idiot.

hulk is more than capable of beating anyone. just goes to show that just cos u have a large array of poweers doesnt work when u face a superior opponent

Hulk is not capble of beating anyone. What it goes to show you is that the writers were pretty desperate to make hulk look better after supes beat him.

Let me explain this one more time. A writer could make it so that a pretzel beats LT if they so felt like it.

WRONG, hulk, was created ( and this hasnt changed) to be one hero that has the potential to beat anyone, especially in a fist fight. thats why h has no strength limit. yes i know he doesnt win every fight, he wont thats comics, yet his character was designed with the fact of being able potentially to beat anyone, ive heard stan say this b4 many times in interviews, and also read this in many years of reading marvekl parafanalia.

Tough Guy: So who's to say that the hulk can't beat Apocalypse, or Thanos, or the Silver Surfer?

Yes, you are indeed correct, his strength has no limit but that doesn't mean he has the strength to beat anyone. Stan Lee saying that carry's no real relevance, guy's like the Beyonder,Silver Surfer, or Thanos could defeat hulk despite any potential plateau his power climbs,these guys just have a power that overshadows strength to the point that mere strength looks l quite obsolete(useless) against them, so that fact alone states that Stan's assumption wasn't to be taking seriously.

The hulk is indeed powerful and I'll be the first to say he is one of Marvels top-tier's and in a top ten he would be on the list. But Silver Surfer beat him a period of eight or more encounters. Pound for pound the hulk is the best at what he does(HULK SMASH!!) and various feats of strength but as far as power goes he is outclassed by a select few.

yup, surfer drained his gamma energy, thats not a fist fight which is what im talking about. read my above reply to know my opinion. stan is not the only one who has said this, after many years of reading bios, wb sites, interviews with writers this is the backbone to hulk. yes if u have something else to offer against hulk, THAT CAN ACTUALLY HARM HIM, surfer draining energy, etc then u ll see hulk rightly lose, laser eyes, etc or super speed, or super strength really are nt enough to overcome huks potential power/strength which remember is unlimited

I'm sure this has been said but Gladiator's power drops when his confidence does.

Now, if Gladiator throws everything he has at Hulk and the only effect he has is Hulk doing the moonwalk, isn't he gonna be a little bit worried?

-AC

Now, if Gladiator throws everything he has at Hulk and the only effect he has is Hulk doing the moonwalk, isn't he gonna be a little bit worried?

Yes, I think so. The thing is though, why would that happen? That hulk isnt really affected? Well if it happend, itd be because the writers wanted it so. Its not because it makes sense, its just because it leads to Glad losing and making Hulk fans happy. Something had to bring them out of their deep depression.

I'm a Hulk fan, I'm far from depressed.

I think Hulk would win because he would. Not coz I like him.

-AC

Well, it is kinda funneh they make the hulk literally "humiliate" Marvel's mocking version of Superman(Gladiator) at every turn. I mean Gladiator didn't even score a single blow off the hulk, let alone all attempts at offense on Gladiator's side was countered rather easily.That whole victory was a slap in the face to Superman fans alike. It was sort of designed to give the hulk fan(s) a sense of satisfaction at thinking the hulk could do the same exact thing to Kal-El(which he cannot).

But, you can't ignore this battle because...it happened...so its official.But I really don't consider this a hulk victory due to the fact that a superman based character is made (by Marvel) as someone whom gets his butt kicked at every turn just to sort of justify that Marvel's heroes could own Superman in a battle. Gladiator in my opinion isn't to be taken seriously, and can't be counted on to win a single battle just because he's a blatant rip-off and is destined to lose or made a fool of at every turn.

Hulk fans can rejoice is this single victory because a win against the "real" Gladiator(Superman) they will "never" get to see. You Hulk fans will have to settle with this biased and blatant and poorly writtened battle.

The "real" battle happened in 1999 where "Superman" and the Hulk faced off with the consent of both companies. Hulk toppled Superman and then Superman came and whooped the hulk back.Superman "stood" unphased from a direct hulk blow, the hulk couldn't do the same....Superman even held back in order to calm the hulk down and "reason" out with him..Screw this biased Gladiator/Hulk battle, true Superman fans know that hulk's one-dimensional strength pales in comparison to Superman's "versatility" and intelligence...

If he can beat Gladiator, he can beat Superman.

It doesnt even need to make sense, just as his battle with Gladiator did not.

The point that I have made however is that based on their powers, Hulk should beat neither.

Isn't Gladiator's power dependent on his self-esteem? Or am I wrong? If I'm right, it just seems to be a very unreliable power source.

self confidence.........in which correspondes to Superman being able to accomplish "anything" according to his own will..

Oh. Unusual but cool. He's kinda like that choo choo train character in a book I read as a kid. " I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can."

oh gawd...... 😆

lik i said guys WONG huk is perfect to beat either glad or supes end of story, thats his character hence his unlimited strength potential , healing rate that can be written to match anyone during a fight. ok writers are not gonna always write hulk winning or else wed know the outcome to every hulk fight but thats the way it is. glads power would diminish the moment his blows started to have no effect on hulk, i dont think the fight shown strays too far of what hulk is capable of if writers want a hero to beat a particular hero. like i said lazers are of no use, and superspeed will have no use if your punches arent gonna knock out who u r fighting, especially if as ur opponent is getting stronger u r getting weaker as your confidence is drained. as for supes like hulk can be written to beat anyone and remain within his character i agree only as supes in comics is shown limitless really in power, hence why its unfair using past comic issues as evidence as they are 2 different universes.
* when dc wanted a character to kill supes guess who they ripped off

Tough Guy, although he was the inspiration, I wouldn't compare Doomsday to Hulk, as I've said already. Doomsday is stronger, and much, much faster than Hulk (fast enough to keep up with Superman). And, he doesn't just heal from injury, he evolves immune to it, and grows stronger with his evolution. You pit Hulk against Doomsday, guess who's gonna win?

Originally posted by Tron
You pit Hulk against Doomsday, guess who's gonna win?

its completely hopeless, you guys are going to fall back on the infinite strength factor till the end of time.

Sure the hulk's strength was designed to increase infinitely, and the more angrier one becomes the more blinded and careless and less thought-provoking one becomes in the process.My argument is that Superman being the "thinking" and logical and more powerful from the "start" of the battle knows what he's up against(from previous battles) and will be forced to expose Hulk's only weaknesses, his nearly mindless stature(dumb and enraged) and his slow movements.

The "only" way I can see Superman losing is if he's stupid enough(which he is not) to go blow for blow in a slugfest not realizing the hulk is getting stronger by the minute, Superman is not that dumb and he "already" knows hulks strength is continously rising he won't sit there and play the big green guy's game.

And you already stated Superman being stronger by stating that DC's character's are ridicuously overpowered and should be weakened to match up to Marvels, that comment alone already says that you think Superman is stronger from the start or you wouldn't require the "leveling out" of power to make the battle "even".If you say the hulk was the one "designed" to beat Superman then why would you want the powers "leveled out"? It's should be clear that if what you say is true that the hulk should be able take Superman without any leveling or making characters more "realistic", you contradict yourself.

Which one is it, the hulk was designed to beat Superman and would continously get madder or Superman's power should be weakened to make the battle an even playing field?