Madelyne Pryor

Well, this picture has only Madelyne in it, fighting against Jean Grey during the Inferno.
And the other has X-Man (I'll show it later), so they aren't together in the picture.
These images were made with Photoshop, using some real photos, so they aren't the traditional fanarts.
How do you like it?

😱 In a word: Wow. Upon seeing your Maddie art, I had to go check out your website, and I must say you are truly talented. clapping I certainly look forward to seeing more of your work in the future, especially of Nate. Words alone can't describe him.

Well, Nate is my second favourit character (next to Madelyne, of course 🙂 ), but I think they don't fit together. Madelyne is genetically a mother to Nate! It was a little bit wierd to see them together... kissing each other

Remember, AoA Mr. Sinister used Jean Grey's DNA to create Nate, unlike Cable who was Maddie's biological son. Granted that the two women share identical genetic templates, but the similiarities end there. Nate admitted to Jean Grey in X-Man #25 that he looked to her as a mother figure, or at least wanted to, while Madelyne was more a companion and friend. I can't see them ever having children or anything of that nature, but Nate really helped Madelyne recover from the pain she felt over Scott's betrayal and taught her that not every man saw her as just a cheap replacement for Jean Grey. In turn, Maddie helped Nate recover from his pain over Forge's death and the 'stranger in a strange land' syndrome he was suffering from, especially early on. Quote from X-Man #7:

Nate: Madelyne, I... I'm not real good with sayin' stuff... but ever since... I don't know... you make me... smile.

Madelyne: I know. There's something... special... between us, isn't there?

liked her alread, like a bad mj

😑

More Madelyne for all.

Wow. Upon seeing your Maddie art, I had to go check out your website, and I must say you are truly talented. clapping

Remember, AoA Mr. Sinister used Jean Grey's DNA to create Nate, unlike Cable who was Maddie's biological son. Granted that the two women share identical genetic templates, but the similiarities end there.

Nate really helped Madelyne recover from the pain she felt over Scott's betrayal and taught her that not every man saw her as just a cheap replacement for Jean Grey. In turn, Maddie helped Nate recover from his pain over Forge's death and the 'stranger in a strange land' syndrome he was suffering from

(Huh, my English sucks... I'd rather just make more pictures and stop talking whip)

your english is just perfect! thumbsup

and marvel killed my Psylocke too... so let's all bash Marvel! tomato

Thanks! Thank you very much 🙂 Well, how did you manage to find your way with all these Hungarian stuff over there, on my website? alien1
So I guess you found my X-Man picture, too. There are some Hungarian words in it, too - soon I will change them to English.

Well, I'm no stranger to foreign-language websites. It's largely a matter of trial and error, and the fact that your art was conveniently linked as the top link to the left helped matters too. 😉

Yeah, I know all about these. But a person who has almost the same genetic make-up as you, well that person is generally called a relative, at least, even if not mother exactly.

Madelyne referred to Jean as her sister on occasion. Following that train of thought, that would make Maddie Nate's aunt, if I am not mistaken.

agree. They were a lovely couple for sure. It's a shame both of them died (those Marvel guys killed all my favorit characters... 🙁 ) That's why I don't want to read the X-Man's last couple of issues. This way I still feel like they're just fine 🙂

(Huh, my English sucks... I'd rather just make more pictures and stop talking whip)

There are certain things that I refuse to acknowledge, and that's one of them. It's not that she died in and of itself. It was how she died. Perhaps the single worst piece of writing I've read in a Marvel comic, with the possible exception of the Mojoworld writeoff and the concept of Onslaught.

I can guarantee you your English is better than my Hungarian. 😉 Although truth be told, your English is superior to many Americans who grew up speaking English alone. Of course, I've learned this is something of a trend. Eh, don't mind me, just one of my tangents.

and marvel killed my Psylocke too... so let's all bash Marvel! tomato

It's an interesting query as to which character received worse treatment, Madelyne or Psylocke. On the one hand, Psylocke survived a duel with the likes of the Shadow King and being gutted by Sabertooth, only to be killed by Vargas, in what was a rather blatant attempt to make Vargas look more impressive by killing off a classic character, much like they tried to make Holocaust look like more than a blithering idiot by massacring Avalon. thumbdown

Madelyne, on the other hand, was retconned right out of existence. After ripping continuity to shreds by writing her as dependent on Nate's energy after all, they add insult to injury with... Queen Jean. pissed Compared to this witch of poor writing, even blunders such as ignoring Longshot's existence for a decade looks tame (another rant entirely).

It's really hard to hate the people who create the characters you love so, but when they take the good names, dignity, and lives of said characters in one bold stroke of poor judgment, something inside you wonders. Oh well, that's what alternate-reality fanfiction and the like is for. thumbup

I couldn't resist

your english is just perfect!

truth be told, your English is superior to many Americans who grew up speaking English alone.

It's largely a matter of trial and error, and the fact that your art was conveniently linked as the top link to the left helped matters too.

It's not that she died in and of itself. It was how she died.

so nate is gay and he like forge???????????they killed psylock,for good? i though was one of those i died but :Í´ll BE BACK! deaths..........
comon join me paola i already have 5 friends for a rampage on marvel office, someone discontent with spiderman future, gwens past, psilock death, avenger dissolution, let get to the guns and VIVE LA LIBERTEE!!!

About the INFERNO: quite a lame ending! They laid all the blame on Sinister for messing up with Maddie's life, and they let Cyclops live on neglectfully. Like it wasn't him who betrayed Madelyne - which drove her to the hands of S'ym and N'astirh. I hated that ending.

Inferno was more or less a hastily-cobbled together attempt to get Maddie out of the way. The decision to resurrect Jean Grey has been a much-maligned one, and not without reason. Unfortunately, no matter how marketable the decision may have been, the writers had Madelyne in the way of Jean's return. Hence, Inferno. I totally agree that Sinister was used as the scapegoat of the story. Blame on the guy with the red diamond on his forehead. In fact, in X-Factor #39, Archangel even comes out and accuses Sinister of 'corrupting Scott'. Personally, I agreed with Alex's view on the matter - another reason why I was so disappointed when Havok never met up with Madelyne again during the X-Man era.

I wonder if Scott ever thought about Madelyne after she died.

I can only speak from the issues I have read, and maybe I missed one where he pours his heart out in grief, but from what I have seen every indication would point to Scott more than happily burying Madelyne and forgetting she ever was after a few tears shed at the end of Inferno. In X-Man #25, Jean Grey even has the audacity to say of the matter: "Scott's finally put that... demon to rest." I don't care how they try to shift the blame to poor Sinister, Scott is and was the sole reason why Madelyne was driven nearly to madness during Inferno - and why when she returned in the pages of X-Man she was paranoid, hasty, and vengeful. It can all be traced back to one phone call in the pages of X-Factor #1. Hell, he didn't even show up for the birth of his own son!

Was her second death even worse then this?

You could say that.

Spoiler:
In X-Man #25 Madelyne clearly reveals that she is no longer dependent on Nate Grey for life. This could not be made any more clear through the actions of everyone in this issue. However, in X-Man #52, Nate was attacked by the Strikesquad Gauntlet, and during the battle Madelyne was buried alive by one of them. She managed to escape by teleporting but emerged withered and spent, ostenistibly because the battle had taken so much out of Nate, despite the earlier revelation. She decided her current state derailed any plans she might have had, and she left.

Spoiler:
Alas, if only it could have ended on such an ambiguous note. However, in X-Man #67, we are introduced to "Queen Jean." Anyone who has ready any of my posts knows of my fervent hatred for Queen Jean. She is quite simply the worst plotline device ever conceived in a long line of bad plotline devices. What's Queen Jean's deal? Well, supposedly she's an evil Jean Grey from an alternate universe, and she was stalking Nate to use his power for her own ends or something of that nature. Fine and dandy. However, for completely unknown reasons, the writers decided to undo everything in previous issues. In the words of "the Queen" herself: "I replaced your Maddie several moths ago." In other words, none of the former issues of Madelyne slowly recovering from her trauma and blossoming once more mattered, because it was just some crazy broad from an alternate dimension pretending to be Maddie. And it gets better. Writer Stephen Grant has been quoted on some message boards with Madelyne having been impersonated by "Queen" Jean ever since X-Man #5, meaning that Madelyne's entire X-Man appearance was just a lie.

😠 furious blowup

Okay, I'm fine. Really. 😉 Sorry if I get a little long-winded, it's just intensely frustrating to see characters with such potential written off in such absurd ways while mainstay bores like Cyclops and Wolverine bask in the joys of being included in every game, movie, and toy package. Feh. I apologize if my revelations shattered any hopes, although I suppose it's possible that Marvel might do something brilliant like undo everything from X-Man #45 on up.

Some Madelyne goodness to reward everyone for putting up with my long-winded posts.

Hey, yours is a fine way to hide spoilers in a reply. I've never ever seen the like
Altough I can't read them right now because I'll get the mentioned issues in a couple of weeks now 🍺

to reward everyone for putting up with my long-winded posts.

Inferno was more or less a hastily-cobbled together attempt to get Maddie out of the way.

Scott more than happily burying Madelyne and forgetting she ever was after a few tears shed at the end of Inferno

although I suppose it's possible that Marvel might do something brilliant like undo everything from X-Man #45 on up.

Originally posted by Paptimus
Really this is more an opportunity for me to showcase the fruits of my obsession with Madelyne Pryor than anything else. If anyone has any other pics they'd like to post, by all means. The net needs more Maddie.

Paptimus,

Thanks for all the Madelyne images. I too am fond of Madelyne, especially of X-Man era Madelyne. While I am glad to see Madelyne (or a facsimile thereof) back in X-Men: The End, she's not the tragic, haunting figure from X-Man, but instead (from what I saw at the end of the issue) the big haired cackler from Inferno.

Also, you show great taste in mecha shows via your Icon. I desperately await my Zeta Gundam DVD boxed set, on Pre-order!

Hi! I’m another Madelyne-obsessive who’s just discovered KMC Forums and this thread. Indulge me while I do a long catching-up post.

Originally posted by RoguePw25
… I thought it was a really interesting storyline but I always wondered why Scott married her? It seemed to me like the only reason was that she looked like Jean.

Originally posted by Paptimus
You are correct. Direct quote from Scott himself:

"I married her (Madelyne) because she looked, felt, smelled like you. My senses told me she was you... even as my mind told me it couldn't be." - Cyclops, to Jean Grey, X-Factor #38

QUOTE=2674774]Originally posted by Paptimus
Quote from X-Man #7:
Nate: Madelyne, I... I'm not real good with sayin' stuff... but ever since... I don't know... you make me... smile.

Madelyne: I know. There's something... special... between us, isn't there?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Friendship can be very special.

I wish they’d developed editor Glenn Greenberg’s concept of the Maddie-Nate relationship as part gadfly, part big sister, part demon on his shoulder.

Originally posted by Paptimus
It's an interesting query as to which character received worse treatment, Madelyne or Psylocke.

Originally posted by Paptimus
Inferno was more or less a hastily-cobbled together attempt to get Maddie out of the way.…

Originally posted by Emtrexx
… I wonder if Scott ever thought about Madelyne after she died. (I haven't read the whole X-Factor series, but I heard there was an issue in which they cremated Madelyne, so he might have)

Originally posted by Paptimus
I can only speak from the issues I have read, and maybe I missed one where he pours his heart out in grief, but …

Scott’s epitaph for his first wife was “Maddie was a lie!” spoken in Cable #6. He also said that the baby should have been his and Jean’s. At the end of Cable #8 Cable asked Scott to “tell me …about my mother.” We never did learn exactly what Scott told his son. However, in Uncanny #310 Cable berated Scott for having “dumped” him in the future, but said nothing about Scott’s having dumped him and his mother in Alaska.

At the end of Cable #44, Scott asked Nathan, "Is there any thing that can be done for her (Madelyne)?" Cable replied, "Only what we do for each other. A hand offered in friendship...or a strong set of shoulders to lean on." Of course, Scott never lifted a finger to offer Maddie that hand or that shoulder.

I’m glad “Madelyne’s” appearance in X-Men: The End doesn’t preclude her reappearance in 616 continuity. Heck, even some show of sincere remorse on Scott’s part for how he treated her would be a victory. So would having someone speak for Madelyne as Beast spoke for Jean in New X-Men #156: “You were married to her, Scott. Which implies certain commitments.” Whether Madelyne was Jean’s clone is irrelevant. What matters is that she was Scott’s wife, and a real person whatever her genesis.

hellO! ummm....ah k...i have close to no idea about madelyn pryor....so i WILL read all these posts eventually to get educated...BUT....i wanna know...where did she find the goblins?

Originally posted by ayjay
hellO! ummm....ah k...i have close to no idea about madelyn pryor....so i WILL read all these posts eventually to get educated...BUT....i wanna know...where did she find the goblins?

N'Astirh contacted her via a computer, with an offer to recover her kidnapped baby for her. Madelyne accepted: she'd vowed to get her son back "no matter how long it takes or what it costs."

Most of the other demons/goblins came from a dimension called Limbo. S'ym and/or N'astirh tricked a mutant sorceress called Magick into opening a path from Limbo to Earth.

Hello Anodyne!

Nice choice of name 🙂 The X-Men & Alpha Flight (The Gift) story is one of my favorits 😉 Madelyne had some fun in that story at last.

She wanted to help people so much. She could do that when she turned into Anodyne, and later she joined that flying doctors-thing or what. It's sad there wasn't anyone who wanted to help HER 🙁 Only Havok, maybe, that's why he is my second favorit character right next to Nate Grey 🙂

Thanks for the infos otherwise! 😱

One question: do you know what happened to Madelyne in X-Men The End #6? I haven't got that issue yet and I can't wait to see it 🙂

(sorry for my bad English )

Madelyne's lifestory:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=65

i also love madelyne pryor!!! imo she is so much better than jean grey