Plot spoilers by Josh to date from TFN

Ok nicked these from a thread over there. I thought this way you guys can debate it here. Thanks to Rolando at TFN for the idea.

***There is another Darth ... one we've never heard of before in the Star Wars to my knowledge. How could he tie into the film? If they doesn't appear in person, perhaps the character is part of the backstory? And on a related note, did you know the Journal of the Whills is in Episode III?

-DARTH PLAGUEIS- there are scores of legends about this Sith. But was he was powerful enought to cheat death? Certainly he could at least use the power of the Force to lengthen his life.

-****** of the Whills will also be mentioned, and ******** of the Whills will be mentioned, too.

***One of these is not like the other: Saleucami, Cato Neimoidia, Mygeeto.

-All 3 are planets, but one of them is very different.

-Cato Neimoidia is also described as a Neimoidian colony world. Well done!

-We all know that GL likes to use mytholgy and all that good stuff. I noticed that mygeeto sounds very close to Megiddo. If I'm not mistaken, the second word is a word used in the bible that refers to armageddon. Exactly the observation I was looking for!

-The birth planet of the twins is not on that list.

-All 3 are planets. The events on the planets are what is different. Think montage.

-This montage is in the middle of the film.

-On Cato Neimoidia the bad guys win.

-On Mygeeto the bad guys win

-But at Saleucami, the Jedi win

***Yoda hitches a ride on a dragonfly creature called a Can-cell.

-There is also a toy coming out with Yoda riding the Can-Cell, too, I just learned.

***Odd Ball is a clone pilot that defends Obi-Wan's crippled ship after he is hit by flak.

-There is FLAK in the movie. Obi-Wan flys through it and gets hit.

***Order 66 is the directive Palpatine gives to wipe out the Jedi. The Clones turn at this point.

***Delegation of 2000 is the united Senators and politicians against Palpatine. They are concerned about his powers. This is the start of the Rebellion, before the Empire even takes shape.

***Confirmation: Yoda and Sidious duel

-Impressive enough of a sequence that he did not wish to give any additional details.

-We have "no idea" of the power of the Dark Side.

-You have no idea how bad Sidious is going to get. I didn't think George had it in him. HE DOES.

***Confirmation of Anakin choking Padme?

-I'd bet he chokes her so hard her feet leave the ground.

-In the original cut, Anakin even threw her against the wall. Deleted scene!

***Cin Drallig is played by Nick Gillard and he is a old Jedi lightsaber teacher.

***Suited Vader will not be seen killing off the remaining Jedi.

-Noted that there is still a surprise at the end.

***Dooku gets owned, I can tell you that.

***Mace falls a long way down. Kit Fisto is in this scene as well.

***Nos Monster

Awesome JP! Thank you.

Well, looks like the Yoda/Sidious duel will take place. I guess Sidious get's pretty evil! Can't wait.

I'm a bit curious about Mace falling??? And the surprise at the end? Hmm...well it was noted somewhere that the final minute of ROTS would make every SW fan's dreams come true. So this really makes me wonder!!!!

thanks for the info JP 😄

my theory on the surprise ending: vader knows about luke

"Without naming them specifically, are there any scenes so far which are disappointing or not up to snuff?"
"The BARG is a bit odd. "

"When you say, "You have no idea how BAD Sidious gets" do you mean that in terms of his actions....and if so, does that come across in the dialogue too? "
"BOTH."

"Speaking of the dialogue, how is it this time around? I was pleased with the other two prequels in this department....But for those that weren't, will they be "redeemed" this time around? "
"MUCH BETTER. There's a few dumb lines between Anakin and Padme, but other than that ... YEAH."

"Your reaction has been this strong WITHOUT an accompanying score. How much more drama will the music add to these scenes? "
"A+ I hope."

"I've seen that now you rank it just below Empire...which is encouring, given you've not seen a final product yet. That being said, if the final product is that much better, might it surpass ESB in your mind? And also, if you think not, why not? What does ESB have right now that is lacking in Sith....(other than nearly 25 years of reverence behind it..LOL)?"
"I hope so, but that would be very hard. ESB is an icon."

"Will the individual planets be pretty memorable, visually? Star Wars landscapes have always had very distinctive characteristics."
"Yeah, Utapau is memorable ... the landing platform is in the middle of a sinkhole."

"Are the performances in Ep. III amped up? In other words, from what you've seen, are we getting good stuff from the actors....(say by comparison to the previous two)? "
"Yes 100% improved."

"What specific elements might make this PG-13? Anakin's body? The "scare" factor if it's more intense? Name some broad-but-specific reasons.... "
"EVERYTHING. Especially Sidious"

"If you could be so gratious and have the time could you give out a little tid bit for all of us Tarkin fans?
Is his role in the film in any sort of capacity or just a cameo? Does he have any lines, and is he really the mastermind behind the DS like the OT databank suggests? Will this be shown or mentioned in the ROTS?
Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks for your time... JackOFett. "
"At best a cameo. JG"

" Does Yoda really fart in the movie?"
"In the rough cut, he did."

" Dooku gets owned, I can tell you that. JG"

" Can you give me a little hint or clue about Grievous?
Thanks."

"He hunches more than you would think. He is very different from the Clone Wars cartoon. Titi Jukassa is a young Jedi apprentice seen in the raid on the Temple. JG "

" Hey Josh, In The final duel between Anakin/Vader and Obi-Wan, are the two blue lightsabers the only ones used throughout the whole thing, or is a third (possibly red) saber thrown into the mix? Twelve minutes seems like an awful long time to go with just two lightsabers."

"Hmmm ... let me just tell you this. Most of the marketing from Frito Lay will be red vs blue. J"

"Hi Josh! Would you please tell me something new about Obi-Wan in RotS, seeing that he is my fav. character?"

"Ewan finally gets to act in this one. There's more emotion in 10 minutes of ROTS than all of the prequels combined."

"sorry to bother you... i was wondering if you knew anything about the role of Boba Fett in Episode 3?
Someone showed me these pictures and i was wondering if they are fake. could you help me? thanks a lot. http://img61.exs.cx/my.php?locimg61&imageDan ielLogan41.jpg
http://img23.exs.cx/img23/9112/DanielLogan31.jpg "
"All fake. Lucas doesn't waste time with this stuff this time.JG"

"i asked 'josh' if anakin is darth vader before the suit. he said yes."

"I PMed Josh asking if Sidious would use a lightsaber and he responed: "Heck Yeah.""

"jedi-killah: :" Whats up Grif! Thanx for the all the info that u have given us. It gives us something to look forward to. I know that u r a busy man, but I thought maybe u can give me a hint on something. The scene where Sidious finally reveals himself fascinates me the most, any hints or tidbits on this scene. Also, any hint on a Jedi Masters death? Thanx dude."

"Mace falls a long way down. Kit Fisto is in this scene as well".

"I'd bet he chokes her so hard her feet leave the ground
In the original cut, Anakin even threw her against the wall. JG"

"Did you mean Anakin threw Padme against the wall while choking her? Or that he threw her against the wall after he was done? "
"Yeah, after. Man, you guys are watching VERY closely. JG"

"JEDI vs. BAD GUYS
On Cato Neimoidia the bad guys win.
On Mygeeto the bad guys win
But at Saleucami, the Jedi win."

And birth planet: Polis Massa"

"I asked him about Utapau."
"it is a sinkhole planet JG"

"Can you tell me anything at all about what causes Sidious's look to change? Even a small clue."
"He gets p**sed at Mace and the confrontation squad" - JG"

"Ok, this has been gnawing at me ever since I started posting at TFN. Will Qui-Gon appear in any form in RotS? I'd be ecstatic with just his voice, and have a heart attack if he comes back as a force ghost.
As a side note, I'm sorry to see you go. Thanks for takin' care of us, you've been great. "
"Nope, and thanks for the kind words. JG"

"So Josh your review on EP3. Can you rank how good you think it will be in relation to the other films? Pretty please with Tapioca on top?"
"Sure.
ESB
ROTS
ANH
AOTC
ROJ
TPM
JG"

"I can tell you that Bene is a teenage Jedi apprentice that is killed in the Temple raid. JG"

" Will a suited Vader cut-down the remaining Jedi?"
"Nope. But there is a surprise at the end."

"Will we feel remorse for Anakin when he meets his "demise" or is he just the bad guy at this point we want to see taken out? In other words, is there ever a spark of uncertainty in Anakin during the duel, that perhaps he made a big mistake? A moment where he might BEGIN see the light?
I always felt that having him almost come back to his senses b4 hitting the lava would make it all the more tragic. Thanks "
"You DEFINITELY see this in the Mace/Sidious deal. AWESOME. By the lava, he's pretty much gone.JG"

[i]"First, I know in one of the threads you mentioned that you are now working on your review of ROTS to post on the site. Can you tell me when exactly we can look to see that up?
Also, a quick spoiler question for ya. I won't post it in the forum if you don't want me to. Its a given fact that in this movie, it will finally be revealed who Palpatine really is and what he has really been up to the whole time etc. My question is, in this big "reveal" scene, is it Sidious that takes off his hood to reveal he is really Palpatine, or is it Palpatine who somehow reveals he is sidious? Also when he fights, does he fight in his Chancellor clothes or his sith robes as Sidious?"
"1/1. And Sidious=Palpatine will be cemented once and for all ... by Yoda of all people."

"AH, thanks for the info. So, are you saying that he reveals who he really is during the yoda duel? or are you saying that Yoda figures it out earlier in the film? I thought Pablo said in one of his hyperspace chats that we would see Sidious without his hood on. Is there still a scene were Sidious reveals who he really is to Mace or whoever? How does it play out, if you don't mind. "
"The answer is yes. JG"

"Are there any sequences (you mentioned Yoda vs. Sidious) that we'll want to refrain from knowing about before we see ROTS?"
"Yoda vs Sidious is this. There's several more, actually. I was BLOWN AWAY when I saw the parts of the film that these rumors have been circulating for a while. They got it SO right."

"Obi-Wan gets knocked out on the TF ship and later luckily beats Grievous with a blaster?"
"Yup."

"If Anakin is wiping the floor with everybody and then suddenly Obi-Wan is lasting against him, how will that be believable?"
"It is. Obi-Wan is passionate about stopping Anakin once he realizes he can't be turned. Perhaps Anakin is weak or distracted, too."

"Is Obi-Wan going to be seen as powerful enough to last around 12 minutes against Anakin?"
"Actually THE DUEL is a misleading term. Maybe it should be THE DUELS."

"Although obviously you haven't seen the absolutely finished 100% ROTS, with what you've seen and heard right now, where would you rank ROTS in the Saga?"
"#2 behind Empire, and it is darker and moodier than ESB."

"How cool is Grievous going to be? Can LFL actually pull off a CG villain? Is the Obi-Wan & Grievous duel going to kick butt?"
"It will. This is being finished REALLY LATE in the vfx cycle, so we'll see. JG"

this should be sticked

I really think that this movie is going to differ alot with the others, which is good considering how ESB was so much different than ANH and ESB is my absolute favorite. there seems to be alot of biblical ref. too.
ORDER 66=666=sign of the devil=armeggedon. Lucas is going matrix style on this one. Nick Gillard playing a jedi? i hope he does well....maybe we'll get to see him kick alot of ass! The yoda/sidious fight will be stunning in display, i can't believe how action packed this movie's going to be! I bet this one's going to be the longest of all six

I agree, I think this movie will differ from all the others as well. It will much darker, and alot more violent then the previous films.

I think ROTS will make TPM look like an entire different series. lol

yeah its gonna turn real gritty and the storyline might be a little more simple as well, because it has to wrap up everything

wouldn't it be cool if this movie turned out to be so great, that it won an oscar for best picture like the return of the king did? i think that having a star wars film winning an academy award would be the coolest thing in history

i think its a reference of "get your kicks on rought 66" 😛

thats spelled Route 66. 😛

Can't help myself it's the teacher in me!

hehehe i cant resist 🤣 🤣 🤣

😛 😛 😛
oh boy am i gonna get it 😂

well crack a book now and then ya dork! hysterical

a book? does penthouse count? 😂

i only read the articles 😉

Sounds like it is going to be an awesome ride with all the action can't wait to see the film especially yoda and sidious.

Yeah, Yoda Vs. Sidious is what I am anticipating the most in Episode 3.

Thanks For All the INFO guys
just some things that caught me...
"Hmmm ... let me just tell you this. Most of the marketing from Frito Lay will be red vs blue. J"
---if this is right then some of us are gonna be red faced

" Does Yoda really fart in the movie?"
"In the rough cut, he did."
---guess we'll never know but alot of people would have been wrong on that too

And birth planet: Polis Massa
---should be interesting

"Can you tell me anything at all about what causes Sidious's look to change? Even a small clue."
"He gets p**sed at Mace and the confrontation squad" - JG"
---we have seen sidious's stunt double in the fight scene looking like palpatine... but I guess they add his face CGI later so could see change

"Actually THE DUEL is a misleading term. Maybe it should be THE DUELS"
---well we know it what take place in many different places but i dont think you can call it "duels" in a SW sense unless there is something that they will get into at some point to break from the duels... not just another scene cut in or something

i hereby wet my pants!

I think that the CAN-CELL that yoda rides is goiung to be a creature on Kashyyk. What do you guys think?