captain america can probably get his sheild ripped away, but his tactics have proven to be very helpful. he's aware of his enviorment and can find ways.
spiderman has even said that daredevil's senses make his senses look lame. in every encounter, daredevil has given him a hard time.
wolverine has shown just how durable he is many time. his best showing was in issues #150 to #153. if you read it, you'll find that spiderman can't knock him out. plus, he has gotten out of every webbing attack very quickly including the latest one in marvel team up.
here how i see it: daredevil is on the rooftops cutting the webbing of spiderman while captain America is on the ground. captain throws his sheild as a distraction to his spider sense, giving wolverine the opportunity to come out and cut him.
Originally posted by jinzin
webbings provento be inaffactive against virbranium.. spiderman is web yanking nothing from captain america.. AND cap has an energy shield too.... 😕
Hey want to post that "clearly begging" picture of Wolverine again? Some people still think the outcome of that fight is in spiderman's favor because Spiderman was "seriously hurting" Wolverine. . .
The only way that Spider-man could lose this fight is if he lost his powers...
It's those powers that give him such a tremendous advantage in these hypothetical battles against human level characters....
The trio doesn't have access to the most basic super power... Strength/Durability are one and the same. Cap, DD and Wolverine can't do one physical thing that is SUPER at all because the they're no more super than an Olympian.. Fighting skills don't equal super powers, that should be obvious enough.
Cap and DD could not evade or survive any simple skullcrushing grab to the head from Spidey because he HAS super speed, SUPER agilty, and super strength while they have NONE of these
Wolverine has unbreakable bones and claws but his bio contradicts the durability that he has displayed...basically Wolverine must stray from his bio to stand a chance against most of his opponents.....And that's not my fault. According to his bio his muscles and organs are not much different and likely weaker than Cap's....Yet he negates blows that would instantly kill Cap because his bones don't break? Not according to his creators and his stats....Only his fans and their depictions of him.. His ability to move with super speed and shrug of Hulk and Namor punches are not supported by any review of his abilities.
Bottom line... these characters do not stand a chance against such a powerful opponent unless they are given more powers and stray from their bios.
Spider-man doesn't need to be given any more powers than he had when he began his career to beat the slow moving trio. (Slow according to their bio's)
If you support the Trio then you don't support bios as evidence of a characters abilities, and you do prefer evidence taken directly from the comics despite how innaccurate, misleading, and contradictory that evidence can be....Correct me if I'm wrong.
According to the characters abilities Cap and DD can't outmanuever Spidey or recover from his blows. Wolverine lacks the strength to outmanuever Spidey as well and there is no reason he can take repeated blows from the 10 ton lifter. (according to his bio) Also, not one of the trio can use super speed to evade the webbing that they cannot break, lacking the sufficient strength to do either. Spidey also has the advantage of wall crawling and web-slinging to add to his already superior manueverability.
There's no reason that the trio should win this fight if they are not given more than what their bios give them.
Spider-man wins this easily IMO.
Originally posted by The MISTER
The only way that Spider-man could lose this fight is if he lost his powers...It's those powers that give him such a tremendous advantage in these hypothetical battles against human level characters....
The trio doesn't have access to the most basic super power... Strength/Durability are one and the same. Cap, DD and Wolverine can't do one physical thing that is SUPER at all because the they're no more super than an Olympian.. Fighting skills don't equal super powers, that should be obvious enough.
Cap and DD could not evade or survive any simple skullcrushing grab to the head from Spidey because he HAS super speed, SUPER agilty, and super strength while they have NONE of these
Wolverine has unbreakable bones and claws but his bio contradicts the durability that he has displayed...basically Wolverine must stray from his bio to stand a chance against most of his opponents.....And that's not my fault. According to his bio his muscles and organs are not much different and likely weaker than Cap's....Yet he negates blows that would instantly kill Cap because his bones don't break? Not according to his creators and his stats....Only his fans and their depictions of him.. His ability to move with super speed and shrug of Hulk and Namor punches are not supported by any review of his abilities.Bottom line... these characters do not stand a chance against such a powerful opponent unless they are given more powers and stray from their bios.
Spider-man doesn't need to be given any more powers than he had when he began his career to beat the slow moving trio. (Slow according to their bio's)
If you support the Trio then you don't support bios as evidence of a characters abilities, and you do prefer evidence taken directly from the comics despite how innaccurate, misleading, and contradictory that evidence can be....Correct me if I'm wrong.
According to the characters abilities Cap and DD can't outmanuever Spidey or recover from his blows. Wolverine lacks the strength to outmanuever Spidey as well and there is no reason he can take repeated blows from the 10 ton lifter. (according to his bio) Also, not one of the trio can use super speed to evade the webbing that they cannot break, lacking the sufficient strength to do either. Spidey also has the advantage of wall crawling and web-slinging to add to his already superior manueverability.
There's no reason that the trio should win this fight if they are not given more than what their bios give them.
Spider-man wins this easily IMO.
strength and durability is not the same. wolverine has alot of durability, but not alot of strength. his durability is accurate. where did you get their bios? ever heard of updates?
yeah ok, wolverine and the rest are nowhere near his strength level individually. but i've heard of rare humans that can pull semi trucks. wolverine and cap are past that level. and after weapon x, wolverine gained 33% more muscle mass than he already had with the help of formulas from the scientists, enchancing his strength even more(along with speed, endurance and durability). plus with the adamantium, his hits are even harder. im sure he holds back on some of his punches.
regular humans have killed people with a couple hard punches. logan could probably cave in a skull. karate guys can punch through 2 feet of concrete. with all the enchancements wolverine can probably do 10 feet. spiderman can punch him, but his hands would break or at least get very swollen. his muscle alone feels like a rock. webbing attacks never workeither. he gets out quickly every time.
captain america has the same enchancements minus the adamantium. thats a lot of strength from just two of them. and daredevil has human strength and let me just clarify again how strong a human is:
there is a senior named Sam King who goes to my high school. he can lift 1,035 pounds on the dead lift. think of what daredevil could do.
it's too much for spiderman. two of them could distract his spiderman while the other KO's him (im sure you realize that spiderman does not have as high in durability than in strength. if it were'nt for his agility, he would have died a long time ago.
Originally posted by wolverine8888One of those pix doesn't even feature Wolverine. The graveyard fight pix conveniently leave out the fact that Wolverine was landing 0% of his attacks until a young and terrified Spidey LET him tackle him and on the rooftop Spidey talked of holding back 'cause he didn't know if the imposter (he thought he was fighting some a$$hole impersonating Wolvie, who Spidey believed to be dead) was as durable as the real Wolvie. Another pic isn't from a fight. It's from a training session. Spidey was clearly going all out there 😮
hey mister look at this. by the way thanks jinzin for pics
Originally posted by The MISTER
The trio doesn't have access to the most basic super power... Strength/Durability are one and the same. Cap, DD and Wolverine can't do one physical thing that is SUPER at all because the they're no more super than an Olympian.. Fighting skills don't equal super powers, that should be obvious enough.
True the trio doesnt have the strength of Spiderman, but they sure have better fighting skills than him. Wolverines durability would be on par with Spidermans. Fighting skills dont equal super powers true, but it does equal combat knowledge.
Originally posted by The MISTER
Cap and DD could not evade or survive any simple skullcrushing grab to the head from Spidey because he HAS super speed, SUPER agilty, and super strength while they have NONE of these.
If Spiderman grabbed Cap and DD with the intent of crushing their skulls, hed be able tp pull it off, yes. However It wouldnt be easy for Spidey to grab them at all.
Originally posted by The MISTER
Wolverine has unbreakable bones and claws but his bio contradicts the durability that he has displayed...basically Wolverine must stray from his bio to stand a chance against most of his opponents.....And that's not my fault. According to his bio his muscles and organs are not much different and likely weaker than Cap's....Yet he negates blows that would instantly kill Cap because his bones don't break? Not according to his creators and his stats....Only his fans and their depictions of him.. His ability to move with super speed and shrug of Hulk and Namor punches are not supported by any review of his abilities.
Wolverine has a super healing factor, unlike Spiderman, DD, or Cap. That combined with the adamantium makes up for the reason hes able to take so much damage. Fights with the likes of Hulk, Namor are indded PIS and should never be taken seriously. However Strange, Cap, DD, and even Spiderman himself has taken punches from 100 cl people. So dont just have on wolverine for that. Hate all the top street levelers who do it. Spiderman shouldnt be able to take a hit from them just as much as the others.
Originally posted by The MISTER
Bottom line... these characters do not stand a chance against such a powerful opponent unless they are given more powers and stray from their bios.
Because Spiderman is more powerful than the 3, he does have weaknesses against them however. Can he withstand slashes or stabs from Wolverine? No. Even Hulk and Namor gets penetraterd, so you better believe the same can happen to Parker.
Originally posted by The MISTER
If you support the Trio then you don't support bios as evidence of a characters abilities, and you do prefer evidence taken directly from the comics despite how innaccurate, misleading, and contradictory that evidence can be....Correct me if I'm wrong.
Bios arent the evidence. The comics are. Bios are full of crap sometimes, and so are the comics. But when we talk about what a character can do, we reffer to the comics. Bios are the ones that are innaccurate, misleading and contradictory. We have the Marvel Power Grids to blame for most of that. Thats why DC doesnt have them. Marvels bios put too much of a limit on the characters, so whenever we seem them after 40+ years in a comic and theyre doing soething totally different, were quick to b**ch and cry about it.
Originally posted by The MISTER
According to the characters abilities Cap and DD can't outmanuever Spidey or recover from his blows. Wolverine lacks the strength to outmanuever Spidey as well and there is no reason he can take repeated blows from the 10 ton lifter. (according to his bio) Also, not one of the trio can use super speed to evade the webbing that they cannot break, lacking the sufficient strength to do either. Spidey also has the advantage of wall crawling and web-slinging to add to his already superior manueverability.
Im not speaking for Cap, but DD IS indeed quite capable of outmanuevering Spideys blows and webbing. Its part of his powers. Not one of the trio can evade the webbing? Are you serious? It would be like a tipycal day to DD avoiding them. Spidey would have a chance if these fights were one on one, but all three at the same time? No way.
Originally posted by The MISTER
There's no reason that the trio should win this fight if they are not given more than what their bios give them.
Stop reffering to bios, and refer to the comics and what they do in them.
wolverine has NEVER gone all out on spidey...
this young spidey you keep reffering to in the graveyard battle is a bunch of bull the book came out in the late 80's he wasn't young then... 🤨 .. spidey's expressed several times how wolverine makes him unsettled...
meh.. the graveyard pics I posted also didn't show how spiderman was physically DONE and was exhausted from the fight while wolverine was fresh as a daisy...