Originally posted by Spiderninja008
........that's it, i can't argue with someone who won't recognize fact. Everyone gets stuck in webbing unless u are much stronger than spidy, or have strong sharp claws or something. U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SPIDERMAN, DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT HIM AGAIN, I HAVE STUDIED SPIDEY SINCE I WAS IN THE 3rd GRADE. Wolvy, capn, and DD couldn't do this.....Spidey is 40 times faster than normal ppl, that's what he says in the picture. READ IT. Spidey dogdes multiple bullets, what is a punch to bullets, or lasers even? Does't matter the speed much if he knows it's comn. Super Speed, Spider Sense, Super Jumping, Super Equalibrium, and Super Strength is what the other three lack. Game over.
I smell a fanboy.....
I could be wrong but the first Wolvie vs. Spidey comic ended in a draw. I believe it was a fight in a graveyard. Spidey attacks Wolvie because he thought Wolvie was going to murder a girl (she actually wanted Wolvie to kill her). Anyway, if I'm right, this proves that Spidey can't beat Wolvie as easy as you say Spiderninja008.
About dodging the first punch, there would b no second or third, cuz spidey would either counter them or dogde all day till capn gets tired. Spidey has more endurance than him and can take much more punishment than Capn can give.
The facts speak for themselves and you just refuse to acjknowlege other factors like fan bias and writer bias. someone who can lift 20,000 pounds won't be over powered by a few ppl who cant lift 1,000 pounds and are much slower and have slower reflexes and less flexability and agility.......you won't beat him. LOL carnage or Venom could take out ten captain americas for breakfast, get real. technically venom already has. in a 25th anniversary spidy comic gold foil, Venom takes out a whole team of star spangled super soldiers (Captain America remakes) with shields and stuff with so much ease. THey never had a chance, and he did this while giving spidey one of the hardest woopings of his life. Venom has launched tractors and iron beams form far away at very high speeds at spidey. What is a little shield or some claws gonna do? do I hear kapoot? I think so.
Originally posted by Spiderninja008
About dodging the first punch, there would b no second or third, cuz spidey would either counter them or dogde all day till capn gets tired. Spidey has more endurance than him and can take much more punishment than Capn can give.
This shows you know nothing, Wolvie and Cap could go for days. Spidey's punched Wolvie, he seems fine to me. Hulk has punched Cap, he couldn't be better.
Originally posted by Spiderninja008
The facts speak for themselves and you just refuse to acjknowlege other factors like fan bias and writer bias. someone who can lift 20,000 pounds won't be over powered by a few ppl who cant lift 1,000 pounds and are much slower and have slower reflexes and less flexability and agility.......you won't beat him. LOL carnage or Venom could take out ten captain americas for breakfast, get real. technically venom already has. in a 25th anniversary spidy comic gold foil, Venom takes out a whole team of star spangled super soldiers (Captain America remakes) with shields and stuff with so much ease. THey never had a chance, and he did this while giving spidey one of the hardest woopings of his life. Venom has launched tractors and iron beams form far away at very high speeds at spidey. What is a little shield or some claws gonna do? do I hear kapoot? I think so.
Cap is a better fighter than Wolverine, Why hasn't Venom just taken out Wolverine? Star spangled soldiers mean nothing, none of them are Cap, Cap could have taken them all himself. Wolvies punched Spidey before cause he didn't want to kill him, but he could have.
Originally posted by Spiderninja008
. LOL carnage or Venom could take out ten captain americas for breakfast, get real. technically venom already has. in a 25th anniversary spidy comic gold foil, Venom takes out a whole team of star spangled super soldiers (Captain America remakes) with shields and stuff with so much ease. THey never had a chance, and he did this while giving spidey one of the hardest woopings of his life. .
Try reading comics before you cite them. The group of Captain remakes you refer to is Wild Pack. They are not super-soldiers. They were after Spidey and Venom. Wild Pack attacked them both! It's real sad when a fanboy can't get his facts straight.
....:😖igh:: I will not even validate comics where wolvy crosses over and fights ppl out of his league. I know about that comic and it makes no sense. Wolvy all of the sudden goes super saiyan and obtains the power (don't know where it came from....maybe his a$$?) to fight Venom's strength. When is the last time u've seen Wolvy lift even a small car over his head? WHen has he shown he could lift 20,000 pounds???? Oh that's right, he can't, and Venom can lift well over that. Poor a$$ writing from a fanboy who loves wolvy too much to see him get beat. I can stand Spidey loosing to ppl he COULD or SHOULD loose to, but saying that Wolvy is strong enough to beat Spidey when he simply lacks the strength and speed (both previously proven many times over) to touch him let alone hit him is just wrong.
sorry, my bad, I read it a long time ago, but the comic got ruined when my aunt misplaced all my comics and they all got moldy, so I had to throw them away. That was a mistake. everything else I cited is practically right infront of me, cept the wolvy venom crossover, I was told about it by a friend. u can explain the story to me further if u wish.
You got it completely backwards. It's your fanboyism that's making you think too highly of spidey. Spiderman is not super durable. Spiderman just isn't as fast as you say. In fact if he stood around and tried to duke it out with DD, even he might be able to pull off a victory. All you've got is Spidey can lift this and that. Well compared to everyone else included in this thread he can't fight worth squat.
Peter Parker Spider-Man 2000:
"People have always wondered about my fighting technique. I mean, I've never formally studied any martioal arts. Who knows, maybe I picked up something while watching all those Bruce Lee movies after school on TV......Not to mention a move or three borrowed from the old man without fear--Dardevil. Mostly, I guess my istincts just take over...That, plus the proportionate strength and agility of the irradiated spider that bit me once upon a time. And right then, my spidery insticts were telling me to head to higher ground and even the odds......by gabbing teh web-shooters I stashed before my shift began!" pg. 10
Spider-man The Ultimate Guide:
"The most nimble of all costumed adventurers, Spider-Man has developed a personal fighting style that no one can match." pg. 27
"Even when he's faced by a number of enemies, the wall-crawler's speed means that he can defeat them all without too much effort." pg. 27
Look it up if you so please.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
If spidey tried to take Cap's shield he'd get it all right. Right in his stupid face for thinking he could disarm the fighting machine. Spider man is not much faster than a human. And he isn't much faster Than Cap or Wolvie at all. so he's dodged a tendril from Doc Ock. A punch is much faster than this. I'd punch you to prove it but i obviously don't have that option. Webbing is you answer to everything. Only idiots and amateurs get caught in webbing.
this proves your stupidness, hes 40 times more agile than a human and hes at least 10 times faster than a human, and Capn is a good ole human.
Originally posted by Spiderninja008
........that's it, i can't argue with someone who won't recognize fact.
What's worse, they don't even prove you're wrong, no, they just say : bollocks, and refuse to look at the facts, facts that have been demonstrated again and again in the comics, here on the KMC forums and facts everybody can look up on the numerous Spider-Man fan sites there are on the internet.
But no, why bother checking your facts...?!
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
If spidey tried to take Cap's shield he'd get it all right. Right in his stupid face for thinking he could disarm the fighting machine. Spider man is not much faster than a human. And he isn't much faster Than Cap or Wolvie at all. so he's dodged a tendril from Doc Ock. A punch is much faster than this. I'd punch you to prove it but i obviously don't have that option. Webbing is you answer to everything. Only idiots and amateurs get caught in webbing.
What? Spider-Man is many, many times faster than a normal human. Not in a race, but in a fight he's nearly Speedball speed. Cap is fast too, but not in Spidey's league. Of course Cap COULD beat Spider-Man, but Spidey's going to win more times than not. As for Wolvie, he's not as fast as either of them. Furthermore, Daredevil is not more experienced than Spidey, less in fact. Spidey's webs don't just take down amateurs, he's taken down plenty of pros in his webs. Cap is no slouch but he's just not Spider-Man caliber. As for Daredevil and Wolvie, they're not even close.
I'm new here, so give me a sec to adjust. First off, I've been collecting Captain America everything since I was young (long time), including comics, and he's been around since 1941! Spidey's cool, and he has a couple of good movies under his belt, but my comic collection includes issues with Cap going toe-to-toe with the likes of the Hulk, Iron-Man, the Sub-Mariner, Thanos, and Ultron, just to name a few, and let's not forget the whole freaking Axis Empire! Is Spidey stronger? Yes. Is Spidey faster? I'll give you that. But Spidey's abilities pail in the face of Cap's superior knowledge of combat (especially TEAM combat - he's the leader of the Avengers for Chrissakes), and his ability to study and modify his fighting choices and coordinate team attacks against ANY opponent. And Cap ain't no slouch in the fighting department himself. So, I give this one to the 3 easy (maybe half a comic, tops).