Marvel Fighters Hierarchy

Ok, I'm not going to argue on him not being in the company no more. I guess that pretty much disqualifies him.

But Shang Chi is for sure #1.

I don't know anything about stick, but powers really don't count as fighting ability. If they did i'd be argueing Galactus.

And Wolvie would definitely be near the top. And Cap would be above him.

Make no mistake though, I do love Conan, he's just not under the umbrella anymore. Have you ever checked out Solomon Kane? He was one of Howard's earlier creations, he had some great stories.

No but thanks for the tip I'll be sure to check it out. What do you think of Kull?

Anyway why do people keep putting down Wolvie and Cap? If they had no powers what so ever they could still be top grade heros on their fighting ability alone. Just very different heros.

That's the difference between them and people who rely on their powers. Spidey would be a nerd at a science fair. I don't know enough about stick to comment except for his seemingly silly name. Iron fist ends up second grade without his knockout punch.

Wait, Wolverine would still be dangerous without being a mutant and not having an adamantium skeleton. But, if the good captain did not have the serum, he would not be able to beat up any heroes. He wouldn't be able to beat up any civilians.

Your completely mistaken. Captain America is just as good if not a better fighter than Wolverine.

He may have as good as technique, but if the serum was somehow taken from his body(i know its not possible), the good captain would way about 100lbs. No strength or speed.

Technique was all i was talking about, but come on! 100 pounds! He was a soldier before the super soldier project too.

I agree with Scarlet Spider's list for the most part. But just as a quick comment -- Kilmonger will fall to T'Challa...he's just got some issues with his baby's momma right now, yo. But he'll handle that when he's ready. 😉

I just don't understand why everyone ommits Cable from the list. His hand-to-hand skills are on the same level as Wolvie, and they both know this.

Cable doesn't have the recognition that Wolverine has developed as a major fan favorite over the years. He probably never will which is how I personally prefer it. He's got the hand-to-hand skills there but not exactly on the level compared to say -- Stick. Just an opinion.

Probably because he's always shown either using his powers or some weaponry, if his hand to hand fighting ability was showcased more he'd probably get the recognition.

When he was first created his fighting prowess was showcased. It's only within the last 6 to 7 years or so that his powers have even been seen. If you look back to New Mutants comics he was always battling it out with Wolverine hand to hand. And there are many other instances in which he does. I think it has more to do with favoritism than anything. He's just not a marketable character. Besides it doesn't help his case being co-created by the craptastic Rob Liefeld.

Mercilous, are you saying that the good captain would still be able to kick butt, despite only weighing about 100lbs? Or are you saying that he will weight alot more than 100lbs without the serum? I thought when he took the serum he only weighed 98lbs? Am I wrong? Have the cap facts changed since I last read? Somebody give me a hand please. Sorry, If I created confusion.

He wasn't a soldier before he took the serum, he was a weak little bastard. Pfft.

Deadpool = Captain America. Read any comic with both of them in it, they trade blows and are just about the same level, until DP roshambos CA

It doesn't matter since the Cat would waste all of them.

Shen Kuei, BIATCHEZ!

SHOW ME THE TATOO!!!

Black Cat is a kitten compared to The BLACK PANTHER. Ya hurrd?

Cap 98 pounds? This hardlly seems like someone the "weapon X" project would have picked.

And Cable deserves to be somewhere on this list.

Yes, the good captain weighed 98lbs before the serum. Maybe his origin changed since I last knew. Can someone help me out and confirm Cap weighed 98lbs before the serum.

Cap was an average joe before he took the serum.