Originally posted by Wynndar
because she's a girl? thanks for demonstrating your knowledge about FF
Stop retorting with an insult on other poster's knowledge. That's the worst action you can take in a debate. If you feel the need to bring up examples, do so in a manner that isn't insulting or hurtful.
Well i thought it was pretty obvious that "cause she's a girl" was a joke. I forget how difficult it is to convey emotions on a written forum sometimes (and I refuse to use smileys.)
As for giving Sue credit I've always considered her the most powerful member of the FF. The only reason i see her over powered is the nature of GL's power. If you think about, a strong enough will could contain the Hulk or anything else you can think of.
I think i did read your post evangel...I totally agree that willpower demonstrates graded changes in the power of GL's...regardless...no matter how much willpower they have i dont think they can change the nature of a GL rings power...that would be like a GL's willpower granting him mystical powers. Sue's powers can get past force constructs because she does not need to be connected to her fields to operate them...thats how she produces fields inside of things or people protected by fields.
GL's have a virtually unlimitted power source. Sue's power comes from hyperspace, the dimension we presume energies like gravity and strong nuclear forces radiate into our dimension from. Although its a little more scientific than a giant green lantern of energy on a far off planet...its equally unlimited. Sue's willpower is a big factor in how much energy she can wield...so is her experience...and how far her mutation advances...Sue has cut loose when she wasnt Malice...If i didnt read a comic for over a year I would not make generalizations about the characters and assume I was right. When Sue watched Galactus kill her family she lashed out and said that although she usually cherished intelligent life she had to stop him...Then she blasted a hole right through Galactus' chest. She also appeared to kill Exitar, the greatest celestial. She can always produce a field inside of GL's body if she has to...but she would probably just produce a field around his finger and remove him from his powers.
The Guardians, to my understanding, know all the secrets of the universe. It is this knowledge that they used to make the GL rings. It is obviously an unknown how these two powers will work against each other. You are trashing my assumptions and then making your own. Maybe you're just not taking this as light-heartedly as me?
I keep stressing will power because i truly feel it is key. More will power=stronger defenses and stronger attacks The ring is somewhat mystical in nature, but it can also emulate technology and is only limited by imagination. GL has emulalted kryptonite, and laser beams, and teleporters and who knows what. If he had the scientif knowledge he could probably do thing like nuclear fission as well. And if he had the arcane knowledge he could probably even create spells. Now, all of this is specualtion but this really is the right place for specualtion. If GL could think of it, IW couldn't penetrate his defenses. Sue is gifted, but she's also limited, at least in terms of versatility when compared to GL. So what's left to weigh? Will power.
Originally posted by ash007
yeah but you can not take GL ring forcefully it can only be removed when he chooses to
Yeah I know there are PIS examples of people pulling off a GL's ring. PIS because there are also times when the ring's auto-shields prevent that.
Plus the ring is shown to work even from a distance. The GL has a slight disadvantage because the distance equals a reduction in control over it but if the GL is far more strong-willed than the person who took it, it doesn't matter.
Sue's invisibility means nothing against a GL and her forcefields take backlash that hurts her. GL for the win.
Originally posted by Loot
some ppl here, don´t believe sue richards true power, because most of the time she only use it for protect herself, if sue wanted she could create force buubles inside someone´s body and destroy them, but she´s not a murder, that why she never do this, that doesn´t mean she couldn´t.
this would be a tough battle, i don´t know who would win, i dont think she would be able to take GL ring because he would create a force field to protect himself, the question is, can sue create force bubbles inside GL when he is protected by the ring? if yes she has a very good shot. if not GL wins, like wynndar said she would eventually get tired.
The problem with that argument is that he can do everything she can do and infinitely more. Given what the ring has been shown capable of, a cloaking shield, a force field, green energy power, even a ring powered bubble in the brain are all things he could do too and way more.