Clonetrooper, Stormtrooper: Tomato, Tom-ah-to

seeing AOTC there is no clue given if they know, though it would be highly unlikely they don't know it's a clone, perhaps not who it's from since Jango wears a helmet

/\ I meant to say that it was Bobba on the star destroyer, not jango

but since Boba is Jango's clone, it pretty much still stands 😉

Yet more proof that stormtroopers are clonetroopers:from the starwars.com forum:

"Stormtrooper training stressed complete indoctrination in the tenets of the New Order, and individuals would obey their officers without question, without regard to the rights of others or even to their own safety.
Stormtroopers abandoned individuality in exchange for their loyalty"

The info on SW com aint all that canonical and cant be regarded as the "truth" of things. It is just extra info for the special interested, but a lot of the info there contradict each other as the example of the info on Clonetroopers /Stormtroopers

Originally posted by finti
The info on SW com aint all that canonical and cant be regarded as the "truth" of things. It is just extra info for the special interested, but a lot of the info there contradict each other as the example of the info on Clonetroopers /Stormtroopers

Well, frankly, if you can't trust starwars.com, then who can you trust?
So I guess there's no point in arguing ANY point, because there will always be some other information out there that will disprove it, regardless of the source.

cc

you can argue the point of the info provided by the movies and only the movies

there's a sticky about that here somewhere ...

Originally posted by cornponious
Well, frankly, if you can't trust starwars.com, then who can you trust?
So I guess there's no point in arguing ANY point, because there will always be some other information out there that will disprove it, regardless of the source.

cc

Yup, have a look at the thread at the top of the page, Corn. SW.com has been unreliable on many occasions.

The reason that clonetroopers=stormtroopers is the generally accepted vibe right now is purely because of GL's comments on the matter. We shall see if the finished product of Episode III makes this more clear.

I doubt that Ep III wil clear this matter though

GL himself has proved to be unreliable too from time to time
(see the DVD-news or Ben hiding his identity which was a few days ago said by Pablo that will be explained)

what about the Ben thing Yersie

Originally posted by cornponious
Yet more proof that stormtroopers are clonetroopers:

from the starwars.com forum:

"Both clonetroopers and stormtroopers wear distinctive white armor. In The Art of Episode II, you can see that the clonetrooper armour design is a fusing of Jango Fett's armor and the stormtroopers' armor. There has never been an unmasked, unarmored stormtrooper seen in the movies before, so it is not certain what exactly they look like underneath. The Databank lists the stormtrooper as 1.83 m (hence Leia's comment to Luke in ANH: "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"😉. --->Note that Boba Fett's adult height, Jango Fett's height, and the height of the clonetroopers are all 1.83 m as well."<---

I think this issue is resolved. Stormtroopers and clonetroopers are one and the same.

cornponious

Though the people themselves may be one and the same, that doesn't mean you can go around calling Clone Troopers Stormtroopers and vice versa--they are used for different purposes, they have different equipment, etc. As somebody else already said, Clone Trooper=good, Stormtrooper=bad.

Oh and I still don't believe that Clone Troopers and Stormtroopers are "one and the same". I have read the thing about Stormtroopers abandoning individuality in several different places already so I'm not going to believe what some guy on the sw.com forums says

Originally posted by finti
what about the Ben thing Yersie

Liek I say, nothing is certain until the film comes out.

But when GL said that we would never find that out, that was the fact. But he then changed his mind- something he can always do before the film comes out physically. However, with the common sense caveat that GL can change his mind being something that we should always apply, the fatc remains that all GL quotes on the subject indicate that the Stormtroopers are indeed clones, and so regardless of the possibly odd logic of that, that is kinda the default view for now.

Especially as GL has made such a quote far more recently, when talking of the creation of Jango Fett.

ok, i have this theory about the storm trooper aim issue. according to the myth and magic book, storm troopers have a targeting computer inside their helmets. Since stormtroopers are highly trained, its logical to say that their targeting system is a network to insure coordinated attacks. would it be reasonable to say that the allaiance has set up several small, unnoticeable beacons across the galaxy that scramble that signal, making the troopers significantly less acurate but not useless?

bad guys are always poor shots compare to the good guys

If they had the ability to scramble their targeting systems surely they'd have the ability to hijack their entire system, throw an incredibly loud high pitch squeel into their audio devices and send them to sleep or death.

visuals and audio aren't necesarily on the same frequancey or signal