Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by Blaxican Hydra144 pages

Whoops double post. W/e.

And even with the book, MC goes down. he can lift several tons. So? Thats not going to help much against Samus's long range attacks. That will only help if he can get close to her. And theirs no facts saying that he can punch with the force of several tons. So...yeah. Hell, the books don't even say that he an lift tons, though it might...not sure.

So uh...even if the books COULD be used, what is going to help MC win?

no she said this

"Uhhhh...I don't really care either way myself.

I suppose if it's officially declared canon it is."

not that it could be, that if it is declared canon it is

Originally posted by Blaxican Hydra
Whoops double post. W/e.

And even with the book, MC goes down. he can lift several tons. So? Thats not going to help much against Samus's long range attacks. That will only help if he can get close to her. And theirs no facts saying that he can punch with the force of several tons. So...yeah. Hell, the books don't even say that he an lift tons, though it might...not sure.

So uh...even if the books COULD be used, what is going to help MC win?

he is waaaaay faster, waaaaaay stronger, waaaaay smarter, and well you get the point 1234

Originally posted by SpadeKing
no she said this

"Uhhhh...I don't really care either way myself.

I suppose if it's officially declared canon it is."

not that it could be, that if it is declared canon it is

I said "suppose". Which mneans that it MIGHT.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
he is waaaaay faster, waaaaaay stronger, waaaaay smarter, and well you get the point 1234

And lookey here, a fanboyish comment.

Originally posted by Blaxican Hydra
I said "suppose". Which mneans that it MIGHT.

you said suppose that it might, she said I suppose if it is declared canon it is

Originally posted by Blaxican Hydra
And lookey here, a fanboyish comment.

nope its true ermm

Originally posted by SpadeKing
you said suppose that it might, she said I suppose if it is declared canon it is

nope its true ermm

1. Yes, she SUPPOSES its true, if its cannon. Thats not a definate answer.

2. back up yor facts please. Show some feats of how MC is smarter than Samus is. Examples. Back up your "facts", otherwise its a fanboyish answer. Thats what seperates fanboyish statements from assumptions and arguments.

1. she hasn't seen the actual statement so basically the suppose is meaning that since she hasn't heard anything about she supposes so since it was declared canon by bungie producers, and you are saying that bungie producers are wrong by saying its not canon 😐

2. well he ran a kilometer in the Mark IV armor with torn achilles in 17 sec imagine it with the mark VI and fully healed, he does benches tons, and weighs about a ton in the suit, he was trained at the age of 6 watching military movies and led a group of children against military minded adults, and killed a room full of 10,000 flood infection forms by watching their movements carefully and spreading them out using it against them, and if he has cortana thats enough said about how much smarter he would be then

Originally posted by SpadeKing

2. well he ran a kilometer in the Mark IV armor with torn achilles in 17 sec imagine it with the mark VI and fully healed, he does benches tons, and weighs about a ton in the suit, he was trained at the age of 6 watching military movies and led a group of children against military minded adults, and killed a room full of 10,000 flood infection forms by watching their movements carefully and spreading them out using it against them, and if he has cortana thats enough said about how much smarter he would be then

17 seconds? Hm..what pag is that> I havn't read the book for awhile, so...yeah. I need to read them again.

He can lift at least 4000 pounds, and if he an lift that much, he could punch that much. A normal human being can put easily 800 pounds of pressure into a good kick, thats strength, but mostly skill. The Chief, he has a lot more. His suit is controlled by his thoughts. You can think of a move, easily, physically doing it, that's harder. The chief, he does everything he thinks perfectly most of the time, it's how the suit works. He can easily punch 4000 pounds of pressure. 2 tons = 4000 pounds. The fact that he can lift over a ton is well known fact about the MC and people who know him.

I'll say this, the MJOLNIR armour, is fast, it's strong, and it's powerful. When unenhanced humans tried to use it, it's speed was so much more than the average person can handle that the movement tore muscles and ligaments from the users bones and in the end ripped them apart. Normal people can't use armour. It's too fast.

How smart is the Chief, and Cortana? Well, he had a supersonic jet after him that fired a missile. He was fast enough, and smart enough to dodge the missile and survive, with still plenty of stength to climb a rope or something like that. I forget the exact detail of what he climbed.

He can flip a Warthog with his arms almost straight out to either side. Do you have any idea how akward that is? No one can lift near their max in that positoin, he flipped a hog that weighs over 3 tons without much effort. Granted, it wouldn't be the full three tons, the position of his arms show he's strong enough to lift tons... Even without his armour on and with boxing gloves on, when he was 15, be shattered a mans face and jaw with one hit.

If hes that strong why can't he just kill a hunter with ine punch? See, these are contradictions. Direct, contradictions. If hes so fast, why does it take you almost a full minute to walk aross blood gulch? Why cant he punch through walls?

game mechanics ermm wouldn't be fun anyway if you could just run that fast and move like that and kill people in one punch anyway

right after he deflected the Skyhawk's missile it exploded he got up and ran a half-kilometer stretch in 17 seconds with a blood spattered helmet and torn achilles on page 264, fall of reach. it was bad enough a tank missile exploded next to him, then his achilles tear I wonder how fast it could've been uninjured like 12?

Oh, now he can use that excuse and I cant, funny 😐

Originally posted by L0ckJaw
Oh, now he can use that excuse and I cant, funny 😐

cause I'm special 😄

Originally posted by Blaxican Hydra
If hes that strong why can't he just kill a hunter with ine punch? See, these are contradictions. Direct, contradictions. If hes so fast, why does it take you almost a full minute to walk aross blood gulch? Why cant he punch through walls?

Go punch a brick wall, you'll find it a lot harder than your fist. Anyway, Hunters my friend are far stronger than the Chief. They can easily rip through a tank with their arms, and the metal that makes up their armour is far more advanced than humanities own technology, and the specific metal on it's arm can survive a direct hit from a tank shell. The armour on a hunter, and more so the arm, is very, very tough. There's no contradiction there.

In most video games you seem like your going a lot slower than you actually are. Guaranteed the ingame chief would outrun you easily. And, for that one km thing, I'm not sure if it's real (ill check) he was sprinting, not running a steady pace.

Also, he probably could puncg through rock, but not the walls. The walls are forrunner tech, it makes the Covenant look like the stone age. The problem with punching a wall repeatedly is that it wears down the armour. And as SpadeKing pointed out, game mechanics. It's not easy to make every single part of a level destructable.

Ahem, seconds level of halo 2, your progress is blocked by an metal gate, Mc cant even scratch it so he kills a few aliens instead, then 2 (!!!) two hunters brake through it.

Conclussion : The books are good at overrating everyone

Ahem, second level if Halo 2, the Hunters do that for in game effect and cinematic experience. If MC broke down the gate there would be no point of the Hunters breaking it down. It's a game, it wont be realistic on every scale. And the game manual says the Chief is that strong, not just the books. Every Bungie source most likely will tell you that. You can't argue with a singple point in the game against several dozen sources. lol If you want to argue that way the Chief can easily lift ten tones minimum then, he flips tanks.

Originally posted by LockJaw is lol
Ahem, seconds level of halo 2, your progress is blocked by an metal gate, Mc cant even scratch it so he kills a few aliens instead, then 2 (!!!) two hunters brake through it.

Conclussion : The books are good at overrating everyone

as I said what fun would it be if you could just punch your way to victory, and move so fast your enemies cant hit you? if chief was like he was in the books the Legendary mode would be like playing normal/easy

Exactly, you dont have the enhancements like the Chief does. If the game was "realistic" you'd never beat level one. You'd take 2 or 3 hits and drop.

like america's army
then chiefs armor is waay better than you think it is, and as said in the books in a cross fire he killed three marines I think it was without taking hits cause of his speed so if everyone would be in slow motion except the chief on the game