Samus upgrades her suit in every game. Most of these include a suit which is immune to lava damage. Keep in mind that we also aren't talking about a volcano erupting and she walks into the lava flow, she is miles below the ground on an alien planet and has no trouble with lava. If that doesn't show that her suit is durable, nothing will.
Hit and miss mentioned in one post that other Spartans have some abilities that exceed those of Chief, and others that do not. Why is it then that you claim it is just his decision in a later post? And if he is genetically perfect, how do you explain those that excel in other areas? Wouldn't someone who excel in ALL those areas be genetically perfect?
You keep saying that he will dodge her attacks. While I have not read the books, I would imagine that if he were capable of dodging every attack, he would not need anyone else's help. If he were fighting up-close as he would need to for his strength to be of any use, how is he going to dodge a Screw attack? He may be intelligent, but he has never heard of technology anything like that of the Chozo, so he will be unfamiliar with Samus's abilities, whereas Chief's weapons are mostly from ancient times in Samus's day.
You also chose to use Chief's strength from the game and his supposed speed in the books, and then you claim that picking things SA supporters like from SSBM is unfair? You then have the audacity to say we have not backed up our arguments? Pick a Chief, or pick both, but let us do the same.
Discrediting comics because they are on a fan-site and may be out of context...yet it is ok for you to pick certain quotes from the books, give us no indication of which chapter, page, or even book this quote is from? Satsujin displayed every comic in the series, you have yet to even prove that your books make these claims, and you are far from proving they are in context.
"Samus upgrades her suit in every game. Most of these include a suit which is immune to lava damage. Keep in mind that we also aren't talking about a volcano erupting and she walks into the lava flow, she is miles below the ground on an alien planet and has no trouble with lava. If that doesn't show that her suit is durable, nothing will."
yes she can last less then a min in lava... chief could step into lava jump out shields recharge and jump back in.... With this process he can last longer then SA in lava... Everyone keeps using this lava feat like its golden... SHE STILL DIES IN LAVA!!!! it just takes a min...
"Hit and miss mentioned in one post that other Spartans have some abilities that exceed those of Chief, and others that do not. Why is it then that you claim it is just his decision in a later post? And if he is genetically perfect, how do you explain those that excel in other areas? Wouldn't someone who excel in ALL those areas be genetically perfect?"
The difference is that the one who was stronger then MC worked out more.... And the one who was faster then him was a women... so she was lighter...
"You keep saying that he will dodge her attacks. While I have not read the books, I would imagine that if he were capable of dodging every attack, he would not need anyone else's help. If he were fighting up-close as he would need to for his strength to be of any use, how is he going to dodge a Screw attack? He may be intelligent, but he has never heard of technology anything like that of the Chozo, so he will be unfamiliar with Samus's abilities, whereas Chief's weapons are mostly from ancient times in Samus's day."
The books and games differ only on whos controlling MC's suit...I.E You don't have instant reactions, so you can't use that ability... The game and book are the same.. Just a few game mechanics stop you having access to all of MC's abilities...
Think.... If MC didn't have these abilities how would he survive so many fights??? while all these maries are dropping around him... how does he live?
All the fights on the KMC use rules... 1 of which is both chars have basic knowledge of comman abilities of each char... so they would more then likely know each others abilities... But SA wouldn't know MC's face as thats not widely know...
If SA can take damage from a hit from a space pirate... I think bullets will harm her...
"You also chose to use Chief's strength from the game and his supposed speed in the books, and then you claim that picking things SA supporters like from SSBM is unfair? You then have the audacity to say we have not backed up our arguments? Pick a Chief, or pick both, but let us do the same."
His strength in the books is the same as the game... in both he can punch though alot of hard stuff... tanks, walls, other spartans.... The only reason SSBM isn't that good a cannon source is people like mario and pikachu can beat her... moves are created for that game... and he gun is considerably weaker... Mario doesn't die in one shot??? I could point out that if Mario can send her flying in one punch I think MC would put her into orbit....
"Discrediting comics because they are on a fan-site and may be out of context...yet it is ok for you to pick certain quotes from the books, give us no indication of which chapter, page, or even book this quote is from? Satsujin displayed every comic in the series, you have yet to even prove that your books make these claims, and you are far from proving they are in context."
I discredited that website as satsujin tried everything in his power to discredit and official book.... I only did it to try to show that;
he can use and unofficial website, but I'm not allowed to use an official book.... Yup thats fair to me!!!! Satsujin didn't display every comic in the series... he said he didn't read them! if you got them thou I would be interested in reading them! they sounded interesting!
I don't have access to a scanner... But you can take my word that all the quotes I have used come from the book, and are in full... If you give me the quote you want to know, I'll give you the page and line for it..
Originally posted by Hit_and_Missyes she can last less then a min in lava... chief could step into lava jump out shields recharge and jump back in.... With this process he can last longer then SA in lava... Everyone keeps using this lava feat like its golden... SHE STILL DIES IN LAVA!!!! it just takes a min...
The difference is that the one who was stronger then MC worked out more.... And the one who was faster then him was a women... so she was lighter...
The books and games differ only on whos controlling MC's suit...I.E You don't have instant reactions, so you can't use that ability... The game and book are the same.. Just a few game mechanics stop you having access to all of MC's abilities...
Think.... If MC didn't have these abilities how would he survive so many fights??? while all these maries are dropping around him... how does he live?All the fights on the KMC use rules... 1 of which is both chars have basic knowledge of comman abilities of each char... so they would more then likely know each others abilities... But SA wouldn't know MC's face as thats not widely know...
If SA can take damage from a hit from a space pirate... I think bullets will harm her...His strength in the books is the same as the game... in both he can punch though alot of hard stuff... tanks, walls, other spartans.... The only reason SSBM isn't that good a cannon source is people like mario and pikachu can beat her... moves are created for that game... and he gun is considerably weaker... Mario doesn't die in one shot??? I could point out that if Mario can send her flying in one punch I think MC would put her into orbit....
I discredited that website as satsujin tried everything in his power to discredit and official book.... I only did it to try to show that;
he can use and unofficial website, but I'm not allowed to use an official book.... Yup thats fair to me!!!! Satsujin didn't display every comic in the series... he said he didn't read them! if you got them thou I would be interested in reading them! they sounded interesting!I don't have access to a scanner... But you can take my word that all the quotes I have used come from the book, and are in full... If you give me the quote you want to know, I'll give you the page and line for it..
- Ok.. so you're performing a double standard... saying samus cannot
last by standing in it and whistling a tune for a minute straight.. but that chief can last longer by dipping his leg in and saying "ow, too hot.. k I can get out now".. and then going back in.... stupid... next..
- Lighter doesnt always mean faster.. your weight would add more kinetic energy to your speed (top speed)
- Give me a break... if they really gave MC all those slow mo feats.. they could have thrown bullet time into the game to totally trash this 'point' about him being so godly fast, dont you think?.. or just havent you heard of the matrix yet.. The website said he survives from luck.. mentioned nothing about having monumentous skill
- Chief dies when submerged.. I think thats a little sadder than taking damage from a space pirate (and I'm talking about silly depths like that lil tiny pool of water on "headlong"😉. The fact that samus regains all of her agility in water should give you an idea about the technology powering her suit
-Chief doesnt run as fast in the games... in samus' games her running allows her to clear huge chasms, or dash clear through obstructions
-You call posting a few links 'everything in his power' ?.. thats quite sad.. and yet you still choose not to hear that the comic books on the site 'are' official, regardless of the rest of the content
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- Ok.. so you're performing a double standard... saying samus cannot
last by standing in it and whistling a tune for a minute straight.. but that chief can last longer by dipping his leg in and saying "ow, too hot.. k I can get out now".. and then going back in.... stupid... next..- Lighter doesnt always mean faster.. your weight would add more kinetic energy to your speed (top speed)
- Give me a break... if they really gave MC all those slow mo feats.. they could have thrown bullet time into the game to totally trash this 'point' about him being so godly fast, dont you think?.. or just havent you heard of the matrix yet.. The website said he survives from luck.. mentioned nothing about having monumentous skill
- Chief dies when submerged.. I think thats a little sadder than taking damage from a space pirate (and I'm talking about silly depths like that lil tiny pool of water on "headlong"😉. The fact that samus regains all of her agility in water should give you an idea about the technology powering her suit
-Chief doesnt run as fast in the games... in samus' games her running allows her to clear huge chasms, or dash clear through obstructions
-You call posting a few links 'everything in his power' ?.. thats quite sad.. and yet you still choose not to hear that the comic books on the site 'are' official, regardless of the rest of the content
MC shields recharge, SA energy doesn't.... You keep using this lava feat like its golden.... But SHE STILL DIES!!!! its not like she immune to lava..
so a fat man can run faster then a skinny man??? no....
she was faster as she spent more time running then the others... It was her role in the group, so she was known as the fastest...
You got the manuals to the games... Read them... it clearly says;
"bio-engineered and technologically enhanced for better reflexes, eyesight and coordination" Funny... you don't get to use many of those abilities in the game.... But it clearly tells you he has them... the books show you what was done to him and how his abilities work.
That was from the first halo game... this from the second..
"he is a genetically, biologically, and technically enhanced fighting unit. His reflexes are unmatched, his strength and endurance quite unlike any other human, and hi tenacity molded by a lifetime of conscripted military training. the master chief is proficient in all current ballistic weapons and tactics, incursion, and unarmed combat.
yup they support the books... the fact is Halo was a multiplayer game... giving him his abilities would ruin the game, and would make it to easy..
Chief dies when he goes out of bounds... not from water... The guy has dived through space... I think he can withstand water...
I said you have done everything in your power to discredit the books, I would like to read the SA comics! please give me a link to them or tell me where I can get them! I'm not discrediting them... just the fan websites... due to the fact that you have gone out of the way to prove the books non-cannon...
you know the secret Scarab Gun it shoots really huge plasma that melts at the heat of the sun (cause thats what plasma does) haven't you ever heard of that? There has to be at least 50 references to it somewhere... and yes MC can carry it, its looks the same as a plasma rifle. its in Metropolis you need to lure a banshee through the tunnel then go up to a large bridge and its floating on a red beam with a caution thing as well.
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
MC shields recharge, SA energy doesn't.... You keep using this lava feat like its golden.... But SHE STILL DIES!!!! its not like she immune to lava..so a fat man can run faster then a skinny man??? no....
she was faster as she spent more time running then the others... It was her role in the group, so she was known as the fastest...You got the manuals to the games... Read them... it clearly says;
"bio-engineered and technologically enhanced for better reflexes, eyesight and coordination" Funny... you don't get to use many of those abilities in the game.... But it clearly tells you he has them... the books show you what was done to him and how his abilities work.
That was from the first halo game... this from the second..
"he is a genetically, biologically, and technically enhanced fighting unit. His reflexes are unmatched, his strength and endurance quite unlike any other human, and hi tenacity molded by a lifetime of conscripted military training. the master chief is proficient in all current ballistic weapons and tactics, incursion, and unarmed combat.
yup they support the books... the fact is Halo was a multiplayer game... giving him his abilities would ruin the game, and would make it to easy..
Chief dies when he goes out of bounds... not from water... The guy has dived through space... I think he can withstand water...
I said you have done everything in your power to discredit the books, I would like to read the SA comics! please give me a link to them or tell me where I can get them! I'm not discrediting them... just the fan websites... due to the fact that you have gone out of the way to prove the books non-cannon...
wow.. do you read at all?.. you ignored everything even though I write quite clearly
-His shields wouldnt recharge if he was in there for a minute straight.. there goes your silly shield argument.. tsk.. at the most.. his shields would down in less than a few seconds and he'd croak.. samus can tank massive damage on the other hand
-I never used 'fat' as an example (did I even have to say that? wtf).. Larger = More muscle but higher top-end speed.. Smaller = Less weight, lower top speed
-Proficiency is never ever to be confused with "Expertise"... so he is 'not' perfect by any means
-Website describes it as luck
-Implimenting his feats in multiplayer would not make the game too easy.. but whatever makes you feel better for this discussion
-lol out of bounds.. tsk.. I guess they have to call it 'something'
-I already linked the comics that you considered fanfics..
-I never non-cannoned the books, I personally describe them as childish.. as the character never goes through any struggle at all
(no inner turmoil, no difficulty overcoming challenges, etc).. its bland at best..
Originally posted by Zen2ndwhy is water used as a level limit to begin with?... why not put a huge wall up around the arena.. or just have buildings as the boundary?..
I'm not actually sure what you mean buy that? Escaping the level would be easy if you didn't die automatically when reaching the levels limits.
Ah. No, I didn't play Halo 2 single player over and over again to find every little thing. I was sick to death with the multiplayer inside of two weeks.And really, using Master Chief's easter egg gun to win a battle? How cheap can you get?
ok really i dont care whether or not you didn't play it over and over and you got sick of multiplayer inside of two weeks, the scarab gun is a weapon that MC can use, therefore i can use it. just cause it kicks your samus' precious @$$ doesn't make it wrong or bad. 😛