batgirl vs electra

indeed

batgirl has a 5/10 chance of defeating electra becuse of the fact that .batgirls been trained to be a killer from day one batgirl knows every form of martail arts. I just dont like when people say a character will defeat another character hands down without really reading that persons profile.

I'd say her advantage would be her extreme body ready skill which is almost on par with DD's radar for figuring out the trajectory of bullets and such rather then her fighting skill. I think Cassandra vs Elektra at her normal levels results in a 6(maybe 7)/10 for Batgirl. If it’s Assassin Elektra, then Batgirls chances plummet to 2 maybe 3 out of 10.

Elektra has been trained to be a killer and knows every form of martial arts as well. And I don't give a damn if Wolverine was 'not as his best,' Elektra is the better fighter anyway.

so has batgirl shes been trained longer then electra.

If we're considering the possible future where Wild Thing is their (Elecktra and Wolverine's) daughter, then I guess we know who is going to wear the pants.

As to the vs. battle, didn't Batgirl lose some of her skills once she started speaking? (Lady Shiva helped her regain some back, but I do not think all of it)

lol
electra "hey logan honey after you take out the trash I want you to wash the dishes and vacuum the floor"
wolverine "But I'm watchin the game"
(sai comes flying outa nowhere embeding itself in the couch between wolvies legs)
wolverine (head drops wolverine looks at the ground in dissapointment) "sigh .......oooookaaaaaay.
Electra "that's a good wolvie"

Elektra is skilled enough to communicate telepathically, control other people, and manipulate peoples' life energy. She was trained by both the Chaste and the Hand-the upper tier of martial artists in Marvel.

Elektra's been trained since she could walk, how do you figure Batgirl has been trained longer? The fact that her character predates Elektra doesn't equate in the comic world.

...wait. Which Batgirl, Cassandra or Barbra? Because I think you have the wrong Batgirl wrathofachilles.

Also Elektra doesn't come close to Wolverine's fighting skill and as Marvel's martial artist go she is second rate at best.

elektra's fighting skill has been acknowledged by wolverine, she was trained by the hand which has been trying to kill wolverine for a looong time, imo elektra has more fighting skill than batgirl, (barbara gordon, i dont know about cassandra)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...wait. Which Batgirl, Cassandra or Barbra? Because I think you have the wrong Batgirl wrathofachilles.

Also Elektra doesn't come close to Wolverine's fighting skill and as Marvel's martial artist go she is second rate at best.

I don't know Cassandra, but Barbra is the original and Elektra is hands-down better than her. She doesn't come close to Wolverine's fighting skill, you're right, she surpasses it. Second rate? Have you ever seen her fight? I don't dismiss Wolvie's ability, but it is inferior to Elektra plain and simple. He didn't get beat because he 'wasn't at his best,' he got beat because Elektra was just simply better. She is 1st tier no doubt about it. She's not Shang Chi, but she's near Cat level and probably equal to Iron Fist.

i wouldnt say she's equal to ironfist, but she has proven a stronger fighter than wolverine is, in the latest wolverine comics she completely paralyzed wolvie, although he wasnt fighting back and just running away (he didnt want to kill her) she's been shown in earlier comics to give wolvie a hard time(as elektra beating wolvie i never read anything like that)......i cant complain there as some writers describe wolverine differently than others

imo elektra definitely wins this one

I just never liked Iron Fist. I think he's over-rated; he was useless in the Maximum Carnage storyline.

lol, i mostly read his old comics, i dont think he's an overrated character at all, but thats only saying because i dont read his recent solo comic

elektra and Daredevil are both superior to iron fist and wolverine. they've beaten both

Wolverine pawned Echo and she gives Dare Devil trouble... granted she was fasting as such hadn't eaten for 3 days.

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
I don't know Cassandra, but Barbra is the original and Elektra is hands-down better than her. She doesn't come close to Wolverine's fighting skill, you're right, she surpasses it. Second rate? Have you ever seen her fight? I don't dismiss Wolvie's ability, but it is inferior to Elektra plain and simple. He didn't get beat because he 'wasn't at his best,' he got beat because Elektra was just simply better. She is 1st tier no doubt about it. She's not Shang Chi, but she's near Cat level and probably equal to Iron Fist.

You should try learning about Cassandra before you make judgement then. She's also been trained to kill since she could walk. Batman's acknowledged her skilled and said they were pretty much "perfect." Here's some basic knowledge on her:

http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=bmbatgirl

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/GoldenHeroes/Html/Character.asp?UniqueId=72

ANd here's the man that trained her in her first years, David Cain:

http://www.dccomics.com/secret_files/dc_character.html?sc_dc_itemCode=cain

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character.asp?UniqueId=345

Now add on the training she got from both Batman and Lady Shiva, and you got one bad ***** (sorry if that insults anyone) on your hands.Now I don't know who'd win, but she'd definitely give Elektra hell.

I didn't make a judgment, hence my 'Barbra is the original.' I didn't discuss Cassandra because I know nothing of her. I always discuss the original incarnation of someone unless I specify otherwise. And the first link didn't work for me.

Try it again, it worked for me just fine.

I figured you would've known we were talking about the current Batgirl, cause we all know the original would get murdered by Elektra. No point in argueing something that all of us know already. That's just how I see it anyways. But of course, the person starting this thread wasn't talking about the original, so that's where I'm at right now. And if that site doesn't work again, just go to http://www.dccomics.com and click on secret files, if you feel like taking a couple minutes to do so that is.