Who has made the biggest inpact in marvel comics

ok, what hero/villan has made the biggest inpact in the marvel universe, who has affected it the most. big things like the living tribunal dont count. and it is not characters in general, it is single universe chars. for example apocolypse and AoA apocolypse would be differant.

i say either cable or bishop.

i wanna say franklin richards cause of the whole poket demension thang but im not 2 sure really.........

onslaught was a big one, even with bad writing, franklin richards another...

maybe not the biggest, but Colossus saved all of the mutants, thats kinda big

Stryfe. Definately Stryfe. The Legacy Virus was a BIG impact in at least the mutant community. And caused humans to fear mutants even more at the time.

Stan THE MAN Lee.

stan doesnt count. i say bishop because he has had a large effect on many universes, he basicaly caused the AoA universe to be destroyed, he changed the past, and is just plain cool

marvel comics as in the writers and the like? or characters?

character wise i think spiderman has made a huge impact on comics in general, i noticed this while reading batman comics and then eventually making him simply use his grappling hook and swinging around buildings, what a perfect way to get a character around besides flying or a car

but he's not the only one, i think thousands of characters have made a big impact on either marvel or comic books in general

I agree with pr1983, Onslaught did have a big impact in the Marvel Universe.

yeah, he definitely made his mark, theres really so many characters that've made an impact on marvel

I know Beyonder is not exactly what we're looking for (cosmic entity) but still, he made a gigantic impact on the storylines of many heroes/villains.

And though he's not from Marvel (I think) my vote goes to Zorro, because he was the inspiration of countless rip offs (normal, somewhat boring looking guy who becomes a cunning and noble crimefighter wearing a mask and a special outfit, who has a hidden base somewhere - with a loyal servant - and whose identity is known only by very few people).

Without Zorro, no Batman, and without Batman, no Spider-Man.

Marvel heroes/villains who have had much influence : the Watcher, Hulk, Magneto and Kingpin (to name a few).

More down to Earth people : Jonah J. Jameson. Whenever a hero is upset and smashes things because he got a bad review, it's a safe bet the article was written in the Daily Bugle 😉.

i think hulk, he has killed so many heroes and has changed the history in comics

without batman no spiderman, what do you mean?

lol, one way or another you could really name all the characters in the marvel universe if you know enough about them

I'd cast my vote for Iron Man. He caused the whole Crossing debacle.
We shall have to wait for all this House of M nonsense, but I think Scarlet Witch and Magneto have a good chance to be put into these ranks.

house of M doesnt sound like a bad imo, i think its gonna be a good comic (and im hoping toad makes an appearance)

scarlet witch has already made an impact in avengers disassembled, and magneto has already made a huge impact on marvel comics

Originally posted by Havoc470
without batman no spiderman, what do you mean?

Stan Lee created him as a young, insecure student so that young readers could more easily identify with him than with the rich playboy Bruce Wayne. Other influence is e.g. Superman of course (they both work for an arrogant boss at a newspaper).

at the start batman never slung from roof to roof, at least not in most of the extremely old comics i've read, i dont think they both go fully hand in hand like that

Originally posted by Havoc470
i dont think they both go fully hand in hand like that

Originally posted by Havoc470
at the start batman never slung from roof to roof, at least not in most of the extremely old comics i've read,