Sidious and Yoda's power

I have had some conversations with a few friends who want to remain spoiler free but we have discussed since the trailer sidious using a saber. They feel that it diminishes his mystique and mastery over the force. i personally don't feel the same. they felt the same about Yoda using a saber. I think that the masters just use what is necessary. Who knows...if Luke doesn't throw his saber away in ROTJ maybe sidious pulls his out. But since he did throw it down, he just figured he'd torture him with lightning. Does anyone else feel that Yoda and Sidious' use of sabers diminishes their power?

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Nope. A saber fight would be far more entertaining then a fight using only the force.

Thats how i feel. I just wondered if anyone felt like my friends, and if so, how come?

no, cause it doesnt matter about just knowledge of the force, cause it would just go back and forth all day, but with a lightsaber, somwbodys getting f***ed up, or at least we can hope. Thats why Dooku said what he did to yoda, if you both know how to use the force, then it'll be a stalemate...just what i think.

Now see, I'd prefer they have no need for sabers. I'd like to think they are above using a lightsaber myself. 😉

i can where youre coming from, but, i think it would make more of show to see them both jumping around and moving as fast as they can. I remember someone said Sidious can move so fast you cant see him, just his saber cutting the hell out of you. id like to a little of both, bu ti definitly want it to come down to lightsabers. Cause anyone can weild a lightsaber, but someone truely skilled or talented with the force, can use all those tricks along with the physical dueling.

only true masters have no use for a saber. so yoda and sidious dont need to use theirs, but of course they will. it will be the single most greatest thing ever to grace the screens of theatre - the greatest sith fighting the greatest jedi.

When do you think that Sidious has ever needed to use his lightsaber? I think the jedi would hear about some person (Sidous) who used a lightsaber with great skill. Even though Sidious hid his identity, wouldnt the Jedi have heard about a dark lord with a lightsaber unless he didnt use it. Except maybe to train Maul.

sidious wuold have handled a saber when he was training. yuo cant just turn good all of a sudden. practise makes perfect.

Originally posted by Mist
- the greatest sith fighting the greatest jedi.

this only holds true if you believe Yoda was the greatest Jedi, I myself think it's Anakin.

well in the same case, yoda or OB1 never told luke about any sith with a lightsaber. And in TPM, when Maul and Palps were talking, I got the impression that they(sith) have been under the radar or in hiding more or less for quite some time. Also, they didnt know if the sith that was destroyed (maul) was th emaster or apprentice, so IF they had heard about some great lightsaber using sith, they wouldnt know if he was one of the last few that were killed. Remeber, the Jedi are hell bent in thinking that the lightside will prevail, hence beleiving that if there were a mighty sith like that(sidious) that one of their mighty jedi could have disposed of him.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
this only holds true if you believe Yoda was the greatest Jedi, I myself think it's Anakin.

i gotta disagree there JP i dont that believe anakin would have reached his full potential as a jedi when he takes a lava bath , also i also believe that anakin will be a sith at the time of the duel so not even when he takes the lava bath if you get my meaning

no offence or disrespect there JP i wasnt takin the piss or havin a dig at ya , just wanted to clear that up 😄

The lightsabre is a weapon of the Jedi. They channel the force through that blade and are in their primes when using them. True Master's are Master's of all things. Weapons and Powers alike.

Anakin was a gifted Jedi. But no one was as good of a Jedi as Luke Skywalker.
A. He defeated a Sith lord with less than 6 months of actual force training. (This is just a guess from how long he was with Obi-Wan and Yoda)
B. He defeated Darth Vader, something that no one else could do. (Technically not even Sidious, since Vader took him out.)
C. When Luke faces Darth Vader, the ENTIRE light-side of the force is flowing through him.

The way you say that suggests that there is some finite amount of Force that is divided up among the living Jedi that channel it. I really don't know if that's the case or not, but it doesn't strike me as something that should be quantifiable. The Force, to me, seems more or less infinite.

Originally posted by Mist
only true masters have no use for a saber.

But if yoda can counter dooku's force lightning, then he would be able to do the same for palpy's force lightning as well, so the only way that either of them would be able to gain the advantage in the battle would be by using their lightsabers, as they are more or less able to counter each other's force ligtning.

agrees with the Green Lantern.
I think Palpy will hurl a few lightning bolts at Yoda but like Dooku he will see it's useless and be forced to revert to sabres

agreed

in Ep2 we see that a saberless duel between two masters inevitably leads to a stalemate. yoda could have chosen to hurl stuff at dooku, and dooku would have blocked them.

thats why they had to go to sabers, because that is the real test of a jedi's skills.

i disagree with a poster who says that the jedi's force power flows through the saber. i think it is more like the jedi using the force to know how to weild the saber. the lightsaber itself would have the same power if held by anyone.

through the force, the jedi/sith can predict moves and countermove, which doesnt seem to happen when they simply use the force. the closest we see to a move/counter move is when dooku shoots lightning at yoda, yoda deflects, and then dooku deflects. dooku was surprised, so he was caught off guard.
if not, i get the impression that they could have been there all day bouncing that lightning back and forth like a volleyball.

so imho it seems that that lightsaber is the best means of ending a dispute.
never has a lightsaber duel ended in a stalemate, as we see. there is a winner, and a loser.

the reason a duel has to happen between yoda and sidious is to see who the true master of the force is,like so many of you said the force lightning would be blocked by the sabre........and anakin is not the best with a lightsabre, ask obi-wan!!!!!!!

i think that it probly has to happen story wise as well. if ani knows that yoda was defeated he'll realize that the darkside is stronger. remember when luke asked yoda if the darkside was stronger, and yoda avoided the question? he knew that it was.