Favorite shapeshifter

Started by Havoc4703 pages

because morph was in an xmen comic, him being in AoA proves he exists in the normal universe, in AoA he went by both aliases changeling and morph

referring to nightwing as robin would cause confusion since theres another robin, morph and changeling are the same person, theres no other morphs or changelings in the MU, so they're one and the same

Originally posted by Havoc470
because morph was in an xmen comic, him being in AoA proves he exists in the normal universe, in AoA he went by both aliases changeling and morph

I think I saw Morph in an Exiles comic, but I'm unsure of what continuum that is. They were traveling in the past to kill Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by Havoc470
because morph was in an xmen comic, him being in AoA proves he exists in the normal universe, in AoA he went by both aliases changeling and morph

referring to nightwing as robin would cause confusion since theres another robin, morph and changeling are the same person, theres no other morphs or changelings in the MU, so they're one and the same


he was never reffered to as Changeling in AoA. He was reffered to as Sydney and Morph.

I'm sorry but your logic is flawed. He was never reffered to in the 616 MU as Morph. He was only reffered to as Changeling. Yes the same person from alternate realities, but "Morph" never existed in the 616 reality using the name Morph. So by saying Morph was in the 616 reality you are lying. Thats like saying X-man is Cable... they are the same person from alternate realities, but two totally different characters.

616 reality???

the xmen comic i mentioned and linked you to has no AoA reality and morph appears there

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1557

Originally posted by Havoc470
616 reality???
main Marvel Universe

the xmen comic i mentioned and linked you to has no AoA reality and morph appears there
And I stated that I don't recall him being reffered to as Morph in that comic and that I have to dig it out and check.

alright, either way AoA morph is 616 changeling, AoA isnt an alternate reality its just the future of the actual 616 universe

Originally posted by Havoc470
alright, either way AoA morph is 616 changeling, AoA isnt an alternate reality its just the future of the actual 616 universe

uhhmmmmm did you even read AoA?

AoA was the result of Xavier's son traveling back in time to kill Magneto. By mistake he killed Charles Xavier instead. This took place before the X-Men were even formed. After witnessing the death of Charles Xavier, Magneto took over the dream of Xavier and formed the X-Men. Without Xavier's X-Men no one was able to stop Apocalypse from coming to power. Age of Apocalypse is the tale of what would have happened with no Charles Xavier... not what will happen in the future of the MU.

my bad, i got confused with cable coming from the future

what i meant was morph and changeling have been proven to be the same character

Originally posted by Havoc470
my bad, i got confused with cable coming from the future

too many realities... To much time travel... yet I still read the X-based comics.

time travel is an odd thing, it raises wayy too many questions so i think they should've never tried it, but then again its a comic book and its just meant to be fun

ooh, in case you havent heard chris bachalo is on the new AoA project coming up sometime next year

Originally posted by Havoc470
time travel is an odd thing, it raises wayy too many questions so i think they should've never tried it, but then again its a comic book and its just meant to be fun

ooh, in case you havent heard chris bachalo is on the new AoA project coming up sometime next year


serriously!?! Chris and AoA... It's like I commissioned this from Marvel! Thats like a dream of mine. I'm gonna be all over that when it comes out!!! where did you hear this?

it was on the latest wizard magazine, and i read it on an artist checklist of chris bachalo

i think its gonna start on may 2005

I've got to agree with Mightyrain. He was never called " Morph " in 616 continuity. That was only used during the 90's cartoon show. In 616 reality he was The Changeling and in AoA he was " Morph ". But I assume according to AoA continuity he had previously been " The Changling " at an earlier date ( In AoA ) before changing his identity into what is known as " Morph " with the blank features and so forth.

Confusing, ain't it?

thats my point, they're the same person although they have different personalities

i mean AoA nightcrawler has a completely different personality than 616 nightcrawler, but none the less they're the same character

Originally posted by Havoc470
thats my point, they're the same person although they have different personalities

i mean AoA nightcrawler has a completely different personality than 616 nightcrawler, but none the less they're the same character


Actually the entire character is different. They have the same name yes, but they did not have the same life or even remotely the same personality or mind sets. Nightcrawler from 616 is a kind and god loving character with demonic appearance... AoA Nightcrawler is a ruthless cut throat that would stop at nothing to achieve his goals with a demonic appearance.
The majority of the AoA characters have little besides names and appearance in common with the 616 counter parts. They all grew up in a world where they are pitted against each other in a survival of the fittest pace of life. Kill or be killed.

well they had the same powers as the 616 characters also, and AoA nightcrawler had the last name darkholme which is 616 nightcrawlers real last name

Originally posted by Havoc470
well they had the same powers as the 616 characters also, and AoA nightcrawler had the last name darkholme which is 616 nightcrawlers real last name

I said besides having the same names and appearance.
Kurts last name is Wagner. His mothers is Darkholme.

exactly, so kurts real last name would be darkholme

sorry, i thought you meant appearance as far as looks go not concerning their powers too

Originally posted by Havoc470
exactly, so kurts real last name would be darkholme

sorry, i thought you meant appearance as far as looks go not concerning their powers too


I thought powers were a "give me" since evry character has the same powers in the two realities. Yes they have the same powers and names in most cases... they are stil all completely different characters, because they have different personalities and different views on life, and the way to get things done. Besides the names and powers they have nothing in common.
When someone says Magneto they automatically are thought to be reffering to the 616 character... when someone says Rogue they think of the 616 reality... when someone says Morph they don't think of Changeling from 616. If I say AoA Iceman they know who I am talking about and don't get confused and think 616 Iceman.

well you say morph in general people know who youre talking about, changeling would confuse alot of people

meh, this is tiring

anyway, the AoA comics are gonna be going on from february through march and will contain new material from creators involved with the original AoA, the first comic is gonna be titled Age of Apocalypse: Reunion and showcase four original eight-page stories that center around AoA, so far they've mentioned a weapon X tale, and a kitty pride/colossus generation next story, then after theres gonna be a marvel hand book for AoA, a six-issue mini-series illustrated by chris bachalo and written by akira yoshida, no one knows if its gonna continue on the AoA saga or approach it as an untold story though, exiles #60-61 are gonna be tie-ins with AoA

so far thats all confirmed in the latest wizard, i cant wait to even see some of bachalo's art