Bane (w/venom) vs. Rhino

i read that Bane was about class 1, there is no-way he could physically beat the Rhino, Batman would probably beat him using his tech and intelligence but without his belt and stuff Rhino would squash Batman or Bane

Hey anyone, what does Bane look like w/out Venom injected? I haven't read too many comics about him so the only image I have of non-venom Bane is the skinny guy from Batman Returns, but some people talk about him like he's pretty built w/out venom.

he's about the same size without the venom. The venomin the comics increases his strength but not so much his size,,,,at least not to the extents of the movie or the new cartoon.

true Jinzin, Blame it on Batman and Robin, If you take out the Vemon tube, you till have a tough Bane to fight, He wont shrike like in the movie.

I think Bane takes this, Bane has more than strength going for him, He has wit, Bane was hit by a train, and it did not faze him. (When he was fighting Paul as Batman)

The only reason Paul won that fight, was because well, He put Armor on the suit, Claws, and other deadly stuff to bring down Bane.

I still think Wayne takes Bane, but he lost, well because he was tired, I think he hit his limet when he face the Joker and Scarecrow at the end.

Yeah, I don't know for some reason I don't see a venomized bane getting beaten by a normal batman, I know they had their rematch later on but since bane wasn't hooken on the venom it really wasn't the same.