Originally posted by Sicky666
Strange, a time ago I met a guy who called himself Nazgul and explained to me that the Nazgul were related to dragons and Tiamat...
how could nazgul be related to dragons? the nazgul used to be men. it even says in the movie so the legolas lover know that the nazgul arnt just...things, they're people, or used to be.
"the were once men. great kings of me. then sauron the deciever gave to them nine rings of power. blinded by their greed they took them without question. now they are slaves to his will."
and just so everyone knows, men are not related to dragons.
These aren't the names of the ringwraiths but the names of the nine watchers, for me it is the same...
I already posted this elsewhere, but here you go again:
"The Watchers come from a Race different from that of Men and yet different from that of the Gods, and it is said that they were with KINGU (Lurtz) and his hordes at the time of the War between the Worlds, but was dissatisfied and did cleave unto the Armies of Lord MARDUK.
Wherefore it is wise to conjur It in the Names of the Nine Great Watchers Who existed before the Confrontation, from whose borne the Watcher and His Race ultimately derive.
And the Watchers appear sometimes as great and fierce Dogs, who prowls about the Gate or the Circle, frightening away the idimmu who forever lurk about the barriers, waiting for sacrifice. And the Watchers sometimes appear as great and noble Spirits, holding aloft the Swords of Flame, and even the Elder Gods are awed thereby. And sometimes the Watchers appear as Men in Long Black Robes, faceless, with eyes that never lose their stare. And the Lord of the Watchers dwells, it is said, among the Wastes of the IGIGI..."
What this has to do with the Nazgul? I think they are one and the same and I do believe in their existence (on another Sphere ofcourse)...
Re: Lurtz
Originally posted by Mithrandir
The Fellowship minus one istari set off down the river anduin.Cut to: Uruk-Hai running through the forest, in slow motion, them slowing down finally. Lurtz snarls takes out some reading glasses and a map and then violently points in the opposite direction which, after all the uruks about face, run towards.
Cut to: Fellowship reaching Argonath.
Cut to: Lurtz on mapquest.
Cut to: Fellowship reaching Western shore on Amon Hen.
Cut to: Lurtz asking local flora for directions while the other uruks mutter and belittle him under their breath.
Cut to: Camp at Amon Hen.
^ original quote 😂
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Originally posted by Lord_Andres
Tolkien only named one nazgúl I belive and it was Khamul
The other eight were given names in the Decipher card games by Iron Crown Enterprises, and as those names became extremely popular, they are often presented as the Nazgûl's real names, though they have little or nothing to do with Tolkien (except in some the fragmental usage of one of his languages, Adûnaic); as they don't contradict anything Tolkien says though, some suggest to use them like they really were their names
We already had a discussion about them in an other thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1906361#post1906361
and
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1905801#post1905801
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