Review: Alexander

From the horrible reviews of this movie, and from following the news and interviews throughout it's production, I'll wait to see it on video.

But the romans in those days were mosty gays so you maybe right about that too.JM

Jackie, I'm always seeming to pick you out for less than intelligent or less than informed comments. Thanx for not letting me down in this thread. Roman's were not mostly gay. Infact the percentage of gay men in their time is probably the same as in our time. Among the lower classes it was no big deal. In the middle to high classes it was generally kept to one's self and their partner as it might harm a potential political career and if you were of a high enough class no one cared if you were gay because they were all too busy kissing your patrician ass. I am a big fan of both ancient greek and roman history, and your comment is misinformed, unrefined and ignorant.

I think if you are a big history buff then it would be great MornGlory

Actually morn, I think it's the history buffs who are really panning this movie BIG TIME.

historians actually believe he was likely homosexual - forumcrew

Getting your info from a gayheros.com is a little biased. More accurate to say that Some historians believe that he was homosexual, most actually believe that he was bisexual and many believe that his sexuality was not about sex but actually just seeking acceptance and love from wherever he could get it. In fact instead of focusing on his sexuality, it would have been a better story to focus on the fact that most of his motivation was fuelled by his desire to prove that he was as good or better as his father, and to live up to how he wished his father would have seen him if he had remained alive, oh yeah, and alexander went crazy, can't forget that.

If you want a great historical/fictional account of his life, ignore the movie and read the trilogy of his life written by Valerio Massimo Manfredi.

yes i meant to say bi-sexual but it was already clear he had wives i assumed people would know what i meant, and my info comes from my ancient greek history classes ive taken in college, that was just a quick link that talked specificaly about events from the movie so i thought it would be easy to clear up some stuff for people.. he had wives he liked women but he also did have relationships with men

agree ✅

Originally posted by KharmaDog

Getting your info from a gayheros.com is a little biased. More accurate to say that Some historians believe that he was homosexual, most actually believe that he was bisexual and many believe that his sexuality was not about sex but actually just seeking acceptance and love from wherever he could get it. In fact instead of focusing on his sexuality, it would have been a better story to focus on the fact that most of his motivation was fuelled by his desire to prove that he was as good or better as his father, and to live up to how he wished his father would have seen him if he had remained alive, oh yeah, and alexander went crazy, can't forget that.

Actually alot of the movie focusses on just that, his determiniation to be better than his father, throughout the movie he challenges people who compare him to Phillip and all he did, but Alexander out does his father immensely. The movie does focus on his family life, not just the military life, his over bearing mother, and his father who never thought he was good enough as well.

The movie wasn't that good, whether it was accurate or not.

Angelina Jolie was very good in it. I was extremely surprised by that, considering I don't like her.

Originally posted by forumcrew
thanks for being one of the few people to back me up silver tears i think people are either too closed minded about the movie or thought they were going to see a war movie and got a good historical story and were upset about it.. i think they did a fine job the movie just isnt for the general public who loves explosions and and movies that revolve around fx rather then story

i always give credit where credit is due, the movie looked amazing, the battles were completely amazing, the acting couldnt have been done better, but it was definitely a movie about alexanders dramatic life and not accurate in timeline

I was extremely disapointed with this movie. The acting was mediocre, and at times Oliver Stone seemed too obsessed with speacial effects. Example, when the entire backround goes red during the battle in India. The battle scenes were well done though, and it was historically accurate enough. But oh well.

I was disappointed here. Sorry for the comparison but Troy was a far better movie.

I think so, too.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
See, truth of the matter is that no one knows how Alexander was in real life. About the gay thing, well it was common custom for roman and greek men to have male relations, most men had male partners while being married. this is just what history suggests.

I mean, i am just anxious to see this lawsuit get thrown out. There is a thing called artistic freedom when writing and making movies. That law suit is one of the silliest things i have ever heard.

It really isnt silly if you think about it he was one of thier leaders and a great one and if someone is potraying him in a way they see untrue then they have a right to change that. Oliver stone should have checked and made sure the story of the film didnt offend anyone or country. Not that i am blaming him.

Still haven't seen the movie, and the more I hear I probably won't. O.K., maybe when it comes out on DVD, even then I'll wait till there is nothing else to do. A few quick questions to those who have seen it though:

Does the movie really play up the relationships that Alexander had with his dog and horse? I ask this because it was these two relationships that really help define his character. His love and respect for these animals (his dearest friends) was based on their undevoted loyalty and love for him. They were his only unquestionable relationships. By that I mean alexander knew that their friendship was simple, absolute and without complexity.

He absolutely loved Bucephalus his horse and was shattered when he died. His love for Peritas (thought to be a Mollossian dog) was no less. He named cities after both animals, and was always never far from one or the other.

Peritas was killed saving Alexander (who at the time was being careless in battle) and Alexander never forgave himself. Bucephalus' death also sent him into a deep depression. I sure hope important relationships like this weren't overlooked in this movie.

Originally posted by silver_tears
The movie does focus on his family life, not just the military life, his over bearing mother, and his father who never thought he was good enough as well.

Actually, Alexander's father loved him very much (although his mother was quite a wingnut). In fact it was Plutarch, who after studying many original manuscripts and writings of Alexander's life 300 years before, who wrote, " and his father shedding tears, it is said, for joy, kissed him as he came down from his horse, and in his transport said, 'O my son, look thee out a kingdom equal to and worthy of thyself, for Macedonia is too little for thee.' "

Those are hardly the words of a father who thought little of his son.