Marvel/Avengers vs DC/JLA (The Next Battle) · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

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Originally posted by Tron
Dude, Firestorm can fly too.

Was forgetting it

Originally posted by Bardock42
Didn't you say Thor wouldn't be able to stand surely not to fight after the fight with Superman and then with WonderWoman, how can an unconcious Thor defeat Firestorm explain that to me.

I wrot e he probably go uncoscius, do you read?PROBABLY.It means that he can stay and fight after defeating WW cause he possess stamina, durability and resistance to injury over her level.And in my plot it wouldn't be a crap fight like that of AVENGERS VS JLA where Thor didn't use Mjolnir to absorb heat vision from Supes, so he wouldn't be too much weakned.

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Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Lol, yeah ok. Batman can kick Supes ass everyday. And then he wakes up and realizes there's no way in hell that can ever happen. And don't bring the kryptonite issue, Lois can kick his ass with that. Of course she probably does it even without it, women have that uncanny power.

maybe not everyday, but i think hush pretty much explained it perfectly, giving justice to both characters abilities, sure he used kryptonite, but supes gave him the kryptonite for that reason alone, why not someone stronger than batman? because batman would always know what to do with it in a dilemma

Bardock42 Junior Member

I agree JLA vs Avengers had rather Stupid fights
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Hush was pretty nice but it was sad that Batman had to say "Superman could easily kill me, he just holds back" and "one more hit and my hand breaks" that somehow makes the fight stupid.

wrathofachilles Senior Member

That doesn't mean Batman can defeat Superman. He can't. Plain and simple. Superman gave him the kryptonite in case something happened to Supes and he went berserk, knowing that Batman and most others would stand no chance against him. Again, ANYONE with kryptonite can defeat Superman. Gene Hackman defeated Superman with kryptonite. Batman cannot beat him in a fight.

As for the fight, I like the K3 scenario except for Wolverine: not going to happen. As for Thor, he could beat Superman and Wonder Woman separately, but if they team up together he's going down.

Capt.JK Slingin' Shield since '69

I threw the Wolverine vs Deadman fight in there, because Wolverine is a killer, but how can you kill someone who's already dead and can possess the bodies of other people? No one has addressed this in the thread yet.

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Originally posted by wrathofachilles
That doesn't mean Batman can defeat Superman. He can't. Plain and simple. Superman gave him the kryptonite in case something happened to Supes and he went berserk, knowing that Batman and most others would stand no chance against him. Again, ANYONE with kryptonite can defeat Superman. Gene Hackman defeated Superman with kryptonite. Batman cannot beat him in a fight.

thats my point, theres a reason why he gave the all powerful kryptonite to the "human" batman and not to someone like wonder woman or flash, my point is theres a reason why he entrusted the only thing that could weaken him to batman and not someone superior to batman in strength, speed, or endurance

anyway, i havent stated any arguements dealing with this battle, its too many characters and too much concept arises, not to mention i dont know much about dc characters lol

Bardock42 Junior Member

CapJK is right I don't see how Wolverine should be able to Harm Deadman, I mean he can't even touch him (or see him for that matter) on the other hand Deadman can't really do anything against him, well maybe he could use wolverine to help the DC heroes and then kill him with his own claws (if somehw possible I have bno clue how you can kill Wolverine but if theres a way probably Deadman in Wolverines Body can do it.

Oh and for the Superma thing of course Batman can't beat Superman in a one on one fight without his gadgets but the point is, Batman has Kryptonite so why shouldn't he use it (and I wouldn't be to sure that anyone can Beat SM with Kryptonite, it seemed to be a hard fight for Batman in Hush), So you are surely right Superman vs. BAtman in a Boxing fight could only have one clear winner.

Batman (HAR HAR HAR)

saurabh kanhere Restricted

DC wins in majority.

relentless1 Dark Overlord of KMC

addressing it one by one first:

Strategist/Team Leader: Captain America vs Bat Man

Stalemate; both are pretty equal where it counts in a fight

Heavyweight: Thor vs Superman

Superman, speed and strength advantage puts Thor down.

Fem-Fighter: She Hulk vs Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman is a much better fighter and has weapons to boot.

Speedster: Quicksilver vs Flash

Flash has been proven better than Quicksilver on a few occasions, his attachment to the speed for give him a huge advantage here.

Technogeek: Iron-Man vs Steel

Steel is a poor mans Iron Man

Winged Combatants: Archangel vs Hawk Man

Hawkman has better weaponry and is much stronger.

Waterboy: Namor vs Aqua Man

Namor is stronger and meaner.

Fire Fight: Human Torch vs Firestorm

Johnnys got nova blast

Wild Card Battle: Wolverine vs Dead Man

Stalemate, neither can really do anything to the other.

so we have 4 for DC, 3 for Marvel and 2 stalemates in 1 v1 encounters which is what it would boil down to, as for team battle, Batman is a superb strategist and has been shown to lead his team to victory on numerous occasions, but then again so had Cap, I'm going to lean towards the JLA for the win as they are just that much more powerful than the Marvel team, each member of team Marvel down means another guy will get ganged up on.

PS: totally forgot about Dead mans ability to possess people, that makes it almost a landslide for DC as Dead would just possess Thor and wreck the Avengers team from within, and before any of you say that he couldn't due to Thors magic...if youre right he'd just move onto Namor or even possess Wolverine, the guy he's supposed to fight. Either way he turns an Avenger making the odds even more in JLAs favour.