Advant why is this celebrated when Christmas is supose to be a pagan hoilday?

Easter is like that, too. A pagan holiday converted into a christian one.....

easter was celebreted by the jews as passover (commemorating the freedom and exodus of the Israelites)

Originally posted by yerssot

no, the egyptians were first.

Didn't they use a deciduous tree? A palm tree to be precise? It's not very Christmas tree like unless the tree can resist winter. They're a borderline case. The Greeks were the first to do what I talked about, find a tree that could resist winter, and celebrate with it.

It's not very Christmas tree like unless the tree can resist winter

there is always a startpoint somewhere and some would place it with the greek and some with the egyptians

Actually, the concept of decorating a tree with lights came from Germany (at least with pine trees) as I recall.

guess the Egyptians and Greeks had difficult hanging their lights on the trees 😉

1st of advent today😄

hmm 1st of advent was on last sunday here in Norway

???
I thought it was meant to be december 1st

here in Norway it is the last 4 sundays before xmas. To be able to make that happen one of the Sundays have to be in November unless xmas eve falls on a Sunday. We celebrete xmas at the 24th not the 25th.
So for Norway it starts on the 4th Sunday in advance of xmas eve, actually I thought that was the same for all western churches.

advent starts on dec 1st here (i think), as advent calenders start from dec 1st

Advent and advent calender aint really the same. Advent is the church thing for the waitng period while the calenders is for childrens.
I use to live in Arkansas and at least there they celebrated Advent the same way as in Norway

The Catholic Encyclopedia even admits that NOONE knows when the Christian Jesus was supposedly born:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm

It seems some Roman Emperor made a new Winter Solstice festival on December 25th, which was then consequently converted into the day were Christians celebrated the birth of Jesus. There are also tales of semi-gnostics in Alexandria worshipping a virgin goddess Korê (I think), and in the same contry you find images of isis with baby-Horus which looks like Mary with Jesus but are far older...

Originally posted by eleveninches
advent starts on dec 1st here (i think), as advent calenders start from dec 1st

oops. sorry. you were right about it starting 4 sundays before christmas.
I just got confused because advent calenders start on dec 1st

🙂

Arkansas and Norway? You get around finti........

Originally posted by The Omega
The Catholic Encyclopedia even admits that NOONE knows when the Christian Jesus was supposedly born:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm

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