Edge is not a real champ. He is a transitional champion, he should jus face it and jus wrestle and win it one day, fair and square. well theres two title shot main event matches in wrestlemania one for raw and one for Smackdown. I think Rey should be in the title match in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFZ2jKKzZGI&search=mankind
O shit i remember this
Originally posted by Nyria
I agree with Streekz it seemed like a last minute decision because in my opinion the intended winner of the Rumble was to be Randy Orton or maybe it would have even been Eddie Guerrero himself but because of his death and the oprotunist that Vince is he decided to create a storyline off of it and since [B]Chris Benoit has already won the rumble and his career is sort of on a decline the next closet people to Eddie are Chavo and Rey and since Chavo has no push in storylines whatsoever the safest choice to go with was Rey and dont get me wrong cause I love Rey alot but only certain people can make that quick transition from a mid-high card player to a main eventer and in my opinion Rey isnt one of them but maybe just maybe he'll prove me wrong. [/B]
What do you mean a decline? Because Booker T cheated to win the U.S Title? Benoit's career is still soaring high.
In my opinion, anyone who wins the Royal Rumble deserves a title shot at WrestleMania, whether it's because of a storyline or not. I agree that this whole storyline around Eddie's death has been taken a bit too far on certain occasions and a few superstars have been affected by it, but I still say that Rey won the royal Rumble fair and square and it had nothing to do with Eddie's death.
If I'm honest the reason I don't want to see Undertaker win the World Championship at No Way Out is because usually the Royal Rumble winner wins the Championship at WrestleMania and I don't want to see the Undertaker's winning streak come to an end. Superficial I know, but that's just how I feel. Besides, the way WWE is going it's gonna turn out to be a storyline involving Eddie's death and that's not right in my opinion.
One final word...well, two really...TNA SUX.
The reason I say Benoit's career is on the decline is because his popularity is streadily dropping and I dont mean with the fans Im talking about his airtime on SmackDown in case you havent noticed it's steadily decreasing. And as far as Rey goes like I said before I LOVE him but I dont want to see him in the main event let's be realistic Rey is good but is he good enough to beat Kurt Angle? No and he damn sure wouldnt even be able to put a dent in The Undertaker. Rey is an amazing althete as he has proven that but he just isnt equipped the wear the Heavyweight championship belt cause if you want to call someone a transitional champion I feel Rey would be one more than Edge would be and thats just my opinion.
✅ i agree with Nyria she knows what she talking about......
rey did win cause of eddies death, if he wasnt dead then maybe just maybe rey would win the rumble but it would not be this soon......
oh and by the way i very much doubt if undertaker wins the title he would lose to rey at wmania, have you seen who hes fought and never lost to any one at wmania!!!!!!! rey would never be the one to end it!!!NEVER (hope i dont have to eat my words) 😮
and yes for the last few years whoever has won the rumble has won the title at wmania but they wont keep it like that it due a change so even if rey keeps his spot he might not win the title.........
* Edge will make a good champion, face or heel... Edge really deserves the World Title, be it WWE or World HeavyWeight... the reason Edge sucks now is because of the terrible storyline and his lack of flashy moves wayback on his tagteam days...
* and for goodness' sake, just screw the brains out of Lita and kick her out of the scene... hanging out with Lita (or the "$lut" Lita of the storyline) makes him a wuss...
* Edge is good with the mic, it's the lack of more impressive moves he used to perform that makes him dull... always SPEAR and nothing but SPEAR... hell, his EDGECUTION and EDGECATOR is more impressive finisher, or his DOWNWARD SPIRAL... what a disappointment...
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i agree although the spear has moved from a little move that smaller wrestlers kicked out of to knocking them down for the victory, it has now even took cena down but that was 2 of them and he just came out of a big match...i remember back long long ago when hbk and his partner marty jannetty were the rockers they both did the superkick (sweet chin music) which did not do much to an opponent and years later it knocks them out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how things change...................... 🤪
Originally posted by streekz
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i agree although the spear has moved from a little move that smaller wrestlers kicked out of to knocking them down for the victory, it has now even took cena down but that was 2 of them and he just came out of a big match...i remember back long long ago when hbk and his partner marty jannetty were the rockers they both did the superkick (sweet chin music) which did not do much to an opponent and years later it knocks them out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how things change...................... 🤪
Yeah, well what about that Tank Abbot guy? One punch and he wins? That's way too ridiculous.
And the thing about the superkick, it's not about what the move is or how much power it has, it's about how its performed to entice the crowd.
Originally posted by streekz
✅ i agree with Nyria she knows what she talking about......rey did win cause of eddies death, if he wasnt dead then maybe just maybe rey would win the rumble but it would not be this soon......
oh and by the way i very much doubt if undertaker wins the title he would lose to rey at wmania, have you seen who hes fought and never lost to any one at wmania!!!!!!! rey would never be the one to end it!!!NEVER (hope i dont have to eat my words) 😮
and yes for the last few years whoever has won the rumble has won the title at wmania but they wont keep it like that it due a change so even if rey keeps his spot he might not win the title.........
Ok, I admit. It was a bit stupid of me to think Undertaker would lose to Rey. Still, Rey deserves to be in the main event at WrestleMania more than Randy Orton. Did you see the way he humiliated Rey, slaped him about, mocked him, and then used the ropes to pin him? This guy's an Arsehole. I have more respect for Triple H and JBL than I do for him. Mark my words, I don't think Orton is going to get away with this.
Rey should be allowed to fight him again to regain his title shot. To me, it wasn't just about him, it wasn't just about Chavo, Benoit, Vicki or Eddie, it was also about all the cruiserweights in the WWE. If he at least competed in the main event at WrestleMania, it would have shown everyone that the cruiserweight superstars can mix it up with the heavyweights.
Originally posted by Tekno Boy
Yeah, well what about that Tank Abbot guy? One punch and he wins? That's way too ridiculous.And the thing about the superkick, it's not about what the move is or how much power it has, it's about how its performed to entice the crowd.
Ok, I admit. It was a bit stupid of me to think Undertaker would lose to Rey. Still, Rey deserves to be in the main event at WrestleMania more than Randy Orton. Did you see the way he humiliated Rey, slaped him about, mocked him, and then used the ropes to pin him? This guy's an Arsehole. I have more respect for Triple H and JBL than I do for him. Mark my words, I don't think Orton is going to get away with this.
Rey should be allowed to fight him again to regain his title shot. To me, it wasn't just about him, it wasn't just about Chavo, Benoit, Vicki or Eddie, it was also about all the cruiserweights in the WWE. If he at least competed in the main event at WrestleMania, it would have shown everyone that the cruiserweight superstars can mix it up with the heavyweights.
Brock Lesnar will not be returning because the WWE has put a retraining order out on him. And he now wrestles for New Japan.But you guys check this out I was reading this article and at the end all I could say was OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: Is Eddie Alive? (not my views) SHOCKING READ
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IS EDDIE GUERRERO STILL ALIVE?
By Kenny Casanova from www.KennyCasanova.com
[email protected]
Ok; Now some people will want to beat me for saying this, but I find myself asking a question that isn't appropriate in any light. However, it feels like WWE is booking something that doesn't seem possible and I have found myself asking myself a silly question whenever I turn on WWE; Is Eddie Guerrero still alive?
My feeling is other people have suspected this, but no one has the pistachios to come out and say it. So here I go; Eddie Guerrero's death could all be a big super smart angle for a return at Wrestlemania.
My brother-in-law is not a wrestling fan, but comes over to eat wings when we get PPVs. He saw some of what was going on with Rey Mysterio and wanted to know if Eddie was still alive. Whether fans want to say it or not, recent WWE storylines are making it seem like Eddie Guerrero's death HAS BEEN BOOKED BY A PROMOTER.
Why would Vince McMahon want to go there? Why would a global megalithic corporation like WWE want to fake the death of one of its superstar performers, risking the possible backlash that would occur from worldwide media and its fans? SIMPLE; WWE figured out this formula a long time ago; Bad publicity is good publicity.
In a day when it is impossible to fool the fans due to the widely used lighting quick communication resource called the Internet, the WWE knows that "strategic leaks" are the only way you can really throw off the modern wrestling fan and subsequently create interest. Recent examples of this have shown that there is money to be made from false leaks if it is done correctly.
The Edge & Hardy scandal was amplified, exploited and leaked, then turned into a moneymaker (though it was too bad Matt Hardy botched his return promo); Chris Jericho puts up a TNA logo on his site to keep interest on him. Go back a few years and you will see other examples. Brian Pillman convinced WCW to break his contract so his crazy gimmick looked legit to anyone who might do the research (only to jump to WWF.) Vince Russo drops false rumors on the Internet to throw fans off to create more shock when storylines go the other way. Austin amplifies his hatred toward Eric Bischoff in an ECW stint to get sympathy from the crowd and to push the envelope of boss-hating.
Good wrestling promoters have a history of twisting the truth to make the most believable storylines going (i.e. Road Warrior Hawk drunk angle, Bret got screwed angle, N.W.O. and other various invasion plots etc😉 The promoters even work the wrestlers to get the leaks that they want these days and visa-versa.
There is so much foreshadowing going on that makes me think WWE is planning an "Eddie Return." I know that odds of this are slim, and that this blog will be looked at as a big conspiracy theory. I agree with you and it is wrong to say it. But it would be even more wrong if they did it. What if Eddie's death was a work? If it is, it is the greatest and, at the same time, the rudest work of all time.
I have asked a number of people in the business what they think about this and they say all about the same thing. "You are crazy," or "I think that would be too F'ed up," but after I drop a few little bombs on them that have made me wonder, they have wondered too.
The last time Eddie was on television, Ken Kennedy had hit him in the head with a chair. After the match, there was a promo with Batista. His head was all bandaged up and Batista was concerned. The last words Eddie said were, "Don't worry about me, I am going to be alright." This footage might be revisited if this is a big rude angle.
At the Eddie Guerrero Press Conference, Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero seemed to me to have too much composure. At the time when I watched it, I figured to myself, "Wow, Chavo is doing such a great job." He didn't seem sad and I figured if it were me, I would have been bawling my eyes out. I wondered why at the time and then resolved that it must just be he knew this day would eventually come, or maybe they were not as close as he had always told everyone. I look back now and wonder if this is a work, did Chavo think it wasn't going to work.
Either there was and still is a lot of bad taste going on, or Eddie is still alive. Vince McMahon is a bastard, but grilling Eddie's wife Vickie, a day or so after his death on live TV?!? How does someone even approach the option? How can you ask a widow to appear on TV when her husband isn't even in the ground yet? Does WWE have no respect for dead people and mourning? Or did Vickie just get off the phone with a clean-shaven bald-headed Eddie Guerrero who is camping out in Jamaica?
Well if Eddie is alive and hiding out, how could this secret have lasted for four months? My guess is, if this is a work, the lockerroom could still be partially kayfabed to cut down possible leaks. And moreover, Eddie is probably just camping out, or maybe getting some kind of surgery somewhere and is indeed out of the public eye.
The WWE Raw & Smackdown Tribute shows seemed to contrived. While some of the wrestlers seemed very upset and concerned, others seemed like they needed to play to the camera. Now it is impossible to speculate (if this is a work) who knew and who did not know at the time of these shows. It is possible that only a tight group of people actually know the truth and might not have known the truth at the time of filming. I would suspect some (like Benoit) were informed immediately after the shooting with Eddie calling them. But even at that, Rey Mysterio did not seem moved at all. Mysterio taking off his mask seemed like the cliché "let's make this look real" thing to do.
The tribute shows had a tinge of **** to them. The commentators on both shows said, "Eddie would have wanted this," about a hundred times to validate what seemed like a moneymaker. This could be foreshadowing Vince blaming a return angle on Eddie, to keep the heat off of him in the future.
It is fact that most wrestlers have never been great actors, and the few who are have usually moved on to bigger and better the things. At the tribute shows, there was definitely a vibe of bad acting going on, which to me smells like a work. But were the wrestlers working the fans due to a future storyline, or because they felt obligated to be teary-eyed and were not?
One theory on the bad-acting vibe is maybe the wrestlers thought that they should be crying but were not, so they tried to. Seemed like some of the wrestlers were forcing themselves to cry because they thought that is what they should do in this situation, but the tears just were not turning on ;It is possible that forced tears is the product of a desensitization to wrestler deaths –seeing how there have been so many. HOWEVER, forced tears could also be the product of the bad acting that goes along with another storyline.
I am sure that WWE knows how big the next-night ratings were when Pillman passed away and also Owen Hart. But they never had TWO tribute shows, due to a death in the family, nor has any death lasted as long with so much TV time and recognition as this one has.
WWE has referenced Eddie's death NUMEROUS times every single show. It has continuously reminded the fans by armbands on Chavo (on Raw) and Rey Mysterio (on Smackdown) that Eddie Guerrero is no longer with us. Either this is a super sign of respect for the dead and the WWE has finally got it and learned that life is valuable and we should not forget, or (gulp) ;it means something else, something I hate to even think of.
It means we need to remember Eddie's death, for a big twist ending at Wrestlemania that rivals pop culture's desire for twist endings (i.e. Fight Club & Saw). It means that WWE knows people think Tupac is still alive and have figured out how to make money off of people's inabilities to let go of loved ones.
Eddie Guerrero's book is ironically titled "Cheating Death."
With a widespread headline death like this one, it seems odd that there isn't much out there to validate it. Findagrave.com has Owen Hart's tombstone, but there is only a picture of the cemetery that Eddie is supposed to be in. The Smoking Gun has no documents at this time, relating to his death, though documents would not necessarily prove anything anyhow. I also cannot find any evidence that a life insurance check has been cashed.
The funeral was private with only a few dozen or so family and friends. The list of people are all related to the wrestling business. The funeral itself was ministered by SUPERSTAR BILLY GRAHAM - another wrestler.
Foreshadowing was light in the first few months, but now it is seemingly becoming more heavy with Benoit now joining Chavo and Mysterio using signature Eddie moves. If you watch and think about how foreshadowing could be a possibility, you will see why I am writing this right now, be it reluctant or not.
Current WWE programming has incorporated the entire Eddie Guerrero death into a storyline that is involving his wife, his best friends, and his nephew. One reason that makes me subscribe to this conspiracy theory is that these people would NOT want a part of this. Another reason I am in quandary is that I cannot understand how a writer for Smackdown can approach someone and even ask them to say "Eddie is not up there in heaven Rey, he is down there (in hell.)" With Eddie being a religious man, I would gather this would not bode well around those who loved him.
MORE FORESHADOWING; At No Way Out, they spent so much seemingly unnecessary time on Rey Mysterio when the match was over that WWE has to be planning something big. At No Way Out, Rey Mysterio lost his Wrestlemania spot to Randy Orton. He is mortified that he "let Eddie down" and lingers in the ring forever. Then he walks down a line of wrestlers in sorrow.
Rey supposedly dedicated his Royal Rumble match win to Eddie. He has now lost his Wrestlemania spot and this sets up a much-needed climax for a big finish at what WWE considers their biggest event of any year. A typical storyline in literature places a hero in must-win situation to avenge the dead, and all fingers should have been pointing at Rey to win at Wrestlemania. Now, they could still book this, with Teddy Long coming out on the next Smackdown and saying that Orton will have to now take on Rey as well in a three way at Wrestlemania, due to the fact that he held the ropes during the pin. However, another way to book this comes to mind as well.
Imagine Wrestlemania. A Rey Mysterio run-in fails and Randy Orton is beating the crap out of him in front of Vickie Guerrero (who is sitting at ringside collecting an appearance check.) Eddie out of nowhere jumps the fence, knocks out Orton. Rey looks up in disbelief. The audience is stunned. The next night on RAW; "I liiiiiied!"
It just seems likely that if Vince McMahon wanted to pick one wrestler to pull off the biggest work of all time and have him fake his death, he would pick the one whose maxim is "I Lie, I Cheat. I Steal."
I am a wrestling manager; my ring name is Kenny Casanova. I did not know Eddie very well, but did have an opportunity to work with him on a few occasions. I hung out with him one weekend, driving him around Massachusetts for a couple of shows and he seemed like a great guy. He was constantly on the phone with his family and joking with people. He stopped in the mall to talk to a few fans. He was really down to earth. Before you blast me, keep in mind that this blog has in no way been written to disrespect him, but rather to disrespect the potential ruse that WWE might be planning.
I don't believe in ghosts. I doubt the government is hiding information about life on other planets from us. I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories. However, this could be one of the BIGGEST ruses in history. If this is a big work, I have mixed emotions about it. I say kudos to Vince for looking at how people have subscribed to such fallacies in pop culture, such as Tupac or Elvis being still alive and figured out a way to capitalize on it. At the same time, I also think it is a work in bad taste and the trust factor would be out the window forever.
I will, however, not be shocked at Wrestlemania if an angle in wrestling were able to once again finally fool such a large population. It is slightly possible, that the Internet did not prevail this time, and the wool has been pulled over the eyes of millions. Even the smartest of all smart marks, could all be classified as gullible marks once again.
I not going to blast you. I'm just going to say don't believe everything you read on the internet. You probably didn't even get it from a official website. Vince IS far from a perfect human being, but not even he would do something as "rude", which is a very light way of putting it, as this. And for the superstars to act like this, even Eddie himself, is...is going way too far. And how would Vicki Guerrero, or Chavo be able to lie about one of their family like that.
No. I think that Rey is going to win back his title oppertunity at the new Saturday Night's Main Event. I admit, it would be shocking if, in a parallel universe, Eddie did come back and I hate to be voice of reason, but he's not. So, let's put the matter to rest please.