Captain America vs. Juggernaut

Started by Capt.JK4 pages

Now you're just being insulting to both Cap and Juggernaut. Juggernaut is not dumb enough to ignore Cap "pounding" on him, as you say, because he knows if he lets it go long enough, Cap will figure out a way to defeat him. And Captain America is a master tactician; he's not going to just run up and punch Juggernaut in the face and think that's it. Cap has broken away from the Hulk when he had him in his grips, so don't think Cap is helpless against Juggernaut. I think some of you are viewing this from a narrow minded, one-dimensional slugfest point of view. Cap would not face Juggernaut this way. I haven't the foggiest clue what he would do to hurt him, but I think if there are any characters in the Marvel Universe who could defeat an obviously physically superior opponent, Captain America is definitely at the top of the list. Don't underestimate him just because he's not "gritty" enough or because you think Juggs is "cool". Cap is one of a handful of iconic characters in the Marvel Universe who constantly face overwhelmingingly superior foes and win. It is one of the best aspects of the character.

Are you serious?

Ok then what is the scenario most the time when someone says someone vs someone i dont expect juggernaut to just be walking and cap following him behind the corners and everything. I see juggernaut lets say bout to kill someone in a car cause its a green light and he wont go or somethen cap sees this and trying to think of a way to save the persons life juggernaut is about to kill him. In that kind of situation wouldnt cap have to "run up and punch him in the face"

If juggernaut got his hands on Cap trust me cap wouldnt be able to break his grip. Hulk and Juggernaut are two completely different characters

Originally posted by talon00x
If juggernaut got his hands on Cap trust me cap wouldnt be able to break his grip. Hulk and Juggernaut are two completely different characters

You're right. Hulk's stronger.

Originally posted by Nathaniel Grey
Are you serious?

About which part? Ummm... let's just say yeah to all of it.

hahahahahahahahahaha 😆

hulk being stronger that will keep me up tonight

yea...cuz he is....along with half a dozen other earthlings

There are too many variables to determine the true strength of the Hulk. He's got several incarnations which all display various level of prowess. Ex; Gray Hulk is considerably weaker than The Professor/Savage Hulk. So it depends on the incarnation and how mad the Hulk is at the time.

There is NO way Captain America has a chance taking on the Juggernaut one on one fight. This is an utterly ridiculous match up. No matter how cunning he is or how calculated his battle tactics might be a single full force hit from the Juggernaut would cripple Captain America. The Juggernaut doesn't tire, eat, breath or get stopped by humans with super soldier serum. Next you'll be telling me Captain America could take on the Silver Surfer, Cable and the Living Tribunal. It's not going to happen. Please wake up you're taking this fanboyism too far.

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Now you're just being insulting to both Cap and Juggernaut. Juggernaut is not dumb enough to ignore Cap "pounding" on him, as you say,

actually thats probably exactly what he would do. until he got annoyed.

Originally posted by Capt.JK

because he knows if he lets it go long enough, Cap will figure out a way to defeat him.

dont know juggernaut very well do you?? this is another spiderman/juggernaut battle. cap would only win with a little bit of LUCK.

Originally posted by Capt.JK

And Captain America is a master tactician;

irrelavant.

Originally posted by Capt.JK

he's not going to just run up and punch Juggernaut in the face and think that's it.

i'd hope not 🙂

Originally posted by Capt.JK

Cap has broken away from the Hulk when he had him in his grips, so don't think Cap is helpless against Juggernaut.

he pretty much is. eventually he will faulter (he is only human). juggernaut only need 1 slip up, and the fight -will- end.

Originally posted by Capt.JK

I haven't the foggiest clue what he would do to hurt him, but I think if there are any characters in the Marvel Universe who could defeat an obviously physically superior opponent, Captain America is definitely at the top of the list.

i agree. but in this case, hes not going to overcome the odds.

Originally posted by Capt.JK

Don't underestimate him just because he's not "gritty" enough or because you think Juggs is "cool".

caps is obviously power handicapped no matter how you look at it. regardless of his skill endurance or whatever it is he has, he will faulter, and he will need to eat/sleep... SOMETHING...

Originally posted by Capt.JK

Cap is one of a handful of iconic characters in the Marvel Universe who constantly face overwhelmingingly superior foes and win. It is one of the best aspects of the character.

again i agree, but he just cant beat juggernaut 🙂

What JugFan said...😐

And, like he said, it would take luck (a LOT) for Cap to have a chance, if not, then I'd suggest he run from this fight for once to rest, plan, and "assemble" the rest of his crew.

Maybe if Captain America attempted to give Juggernaut a speech on loving his country and then offered him a warm glass of milk he'd surrender? 😆

lol dont see that happening 😄

You Jugg-fans are pathetic. You sit there and insult one of the most iconic characters in the history of comics, knowing full-well that if an opportunity arose for Cap to defeat ANY opponent, he would be one of the first characters to seize upon the idea and utilize it.

You say him being a master tactician is irrelevant. You're obviously another "fanboy", because you seem to think Cap's ability to analyze a situation is irrelevant. Cap has defeated EVERY opponent he has ever come up against with this ability.

And to answer your statement about whether I know much about Juggernaut or not, I've been collecting comics probably longer than most of you newbies have been alive or at least able to read, so I'd say that I probably know quite a bit you don't. I know that Hulk has defeated Juggernaut, to the point that he almost broke down because he couldn't believe he was beaten. I know that the Gladiator tossed Juggernaut halfway across the English Channel, much to Juggs' surprise. So your precious Juggernaut is NOT unstoppable.

Do I think Cap could beat Juggernaut in a one-on-one knuckleduster? Of course not. But neither am I so obsessed with putting down one of the greatest characters in the history of the MU (Nathaniel Grey, your posts come to mind here; I smell a pattern), that I would cast aside the very thought that if anyone could figure out a way to do it, Cap would. Spider-Man also comes to mind here as a character who could come up with a plan that Juggernaut, because he is so stupid, would fall for. Juggernaut did not graduate high school for a reason; he's D.U.M.B.

Your postings about Cap making speeches are cute, but hardly based on anything real about the character. Captain America believes what he believes, but he does not force it down anyone's throat. If you've ever read even ONE Cap comic, you would know that.

There are only a handful of characters in comics that can constantly overcome incredible odds and defeat far superior opponents: Captain America, Bat Man, Spider-Man... these guys win despite the odds. You can argue the thread as I have done, but don't be insulting. Anyone who works at Marvel would tell you, I'm sure; If anyone could come up with a way to win, it would be Captain America.

Juggernaut easily. Cap couldnt damage juggernaut in any way.

Juggernaut.

Galdiator and Juggernaut have never fought. What does hulks being able to defeat juggernaut have anything to do with Cap. Hulks fight wit juggernaut was interupted by x-men. Second fight juggernaut beat hulk down. War was the only one to beat him.
Yer one to talk about fanboys being that you are one. In one on one there is no chance i mean no chance.

Juggernaut should win very easily.

Whoa, a fanboy talking about fanboys, scary, lol. It doesn't have a think to do with fanboyism J.K. True, Cap has gone against plenty of odds, and have beaten most of them, but definitely not all of them, and definitely without help at some point. Like Jugfan said, although he is a damn good strategist, he would need a luck (and a good plot device) on his side while fighting someone like Juggernaut alone. Spider-Man got lucky, had there not been a pit cement around (conviently), he wouldn't have done a thing to Juggernaut, as had been shown for two issues already. And Juggernaut's not bright, but he's not a complete idiot. You make sound as if he's dumb and niave as Bizarro or something. And JugFan wasn't insulting Cap (if your comments were even towards him) and neither was I, hell, we both gave Cap his props. But, regardless, as smart as he is, he's well out of his league here. If Cap wanted to stop Juggernaut from doing whatever he was doing, he'd have to call in what Avengers he could and beat him as a team. I admire Cap's heart, but he'd be stupid to seriously try to fight Juggernaut alone.

If anyone had bothered to read my earlier posts, I had already conceded to Cap not being able to stop Juggernaut one-on-one without calling in some help of some kind. What I was responding to was my irritation at everyone putting Cap down for apparently no good reason, other than he's not as "cool" as Juggernaut. Must be some more of that "teen-rebel angst" coming through the threads.

And yes, Gladiator and Juggernaut HAVE fought; on Earth, in Europe, and Juggs got tossed halfway across the English Channel. As soon as I find the issue, I'll post it. And the fight between Hulk and Juggernaut occurred in a Hulk comic, not an X-Men book. Know your facts before you speak.

In one of the Avengers issues Cap. was knocked out by a member of the Wrecking crew...She-Hulk bailed him out. He was as good as dead. Toe-to-toe, he loses. Period.

However, this is what makes his character so interesting...he's mortal.

Jugs. is a big fat stinking piece of cheese who's powers are so ill defined that he always has to loose in the most retarded manners (like being drowned in concrete).

Spidey 'defeated' Jugs (i.e. thwarted his plan), therefore I wouldn't put it past cap either. Or Luke Cage, or DD, or ...and the list goes on.

Who'd win in a fight is not an equivalent question to who is more devastating.

In any case, Cap is a military man...a super-hero general if you like. Any story that would have him go toe-to-toe with Jugs is a stupid one.

He'd assemble an appropriate force and take Jugs out. That's a
possibility. OR, jugs could jump him, grab'em by the neck and snap it. That's also a possibility.