Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Impressive, but the Destroyer Armor > Mjolnir > Other Uru weapons.
you could be right. i've never been really sure if the armor>mjollnir. i also don't know for sure mjollnir was harder than the serpent weapons. if serpent was near or equal to odin, i don't think there is any reason that mjollnir MUST be harder. uru becomes harder as enchantment is added to it. mjollnir is so hard because ODIN enchanted it. if serpent enchanted the others, and his power was near odin's, there isn't any reason to suppose mjollnir is significantly harder than the other hammers.
and we did see what happened to desak in the armor at one time.
not saying hulk would break apart the destroyer. just saying that this hulk has (apparently) shredded primary adamantium (though i contest it will be retconned to secondary at some point) and broken uru. using that old fight is really quite pointless when gauging this battle. destroyer still has energy weapons that should prove enough to overcome hulk. i was commenting more on how it might go were it straight h2h.
Originally posted by leonidas
you could be right. i've never been really sure if the armor>mjollnir. i also don't know for sure mjollnir was harder than the serpent weapons. if serpent was near or equal to odin, i don't think there is any reason that mjollnir MUST be harder. uru becomes harder as enchantment is added to it. mjollnir is so hard because ODIN enchanted it. if serpent enchanted the others, and his power was near odin's, there isn't any reason to suppose mjollnir is significantly harder than the other hammers.and we did see what happened to desak in the armor at one time.
not saying hulk would break apart the destroyer. just saying that this hulk has (apparently) shredded primary adamantium (though i contest it will be retconned to secondary at some point) and broken uru. using that old fight is really quite pointless when gauging this battle. destroyer still has energy weapons that should prove enough to overcome hulk. i was commenting more on how it might go were it straight h2h.
Based on feats, I'd say it's safe to say the Worthy weapons were <= to Mjolnir. Other uru weapons forged by Surtur, including the bastardized Mjolnirs he was handing out, were broken easier than Mjolnir was. I think Mjolnir's more impressive due to Odin's enchantment and Odin is more powerful than the Serpent, but that's me.
The Desak thing happened because Thor tapped into the full power of the Odin Force w/Mjolnir, something that's beyond any Hulk.
I can see Hulk growing stronger than the armor but not dealing any damage to it, ultimately. The same can't be said the other way around.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on feats, I'd say it's safe to say the Worthy weapons were <= to Mjolnir. Other uru weapons forged by Surtur, including the bastardized Mjolnirs he was handing out, were broken easier than Mjolnir was. I think Mjolnir's more impressive due to Odin's enchantment and Odin is more powerful than the Serpent, but that's me.
i'm not sure about odin/serpent. if they are close, then like i said, i see no reason to necessarily suppose one weapon was 'harder' than the other. of course using feats mjolnir>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>serpent weapons, but they had very limited appearances so i don't think we can really use feats fairly to compare. mjlonir is as hard as it is because of the uber enchantment. if serpent put as much power into HIS hammers, they should be fairly comparably durable. least imo. 🙂
The Desak thing happened because Thor tapped into the full power of the Odin Force w/Mjolnir, something that's beyond any Hulk.
oh, i'm not disbuting that. just that mjolnir shattered it physically. could hulk damage the armor? i'd say maybe. again, the metal of the armor is unknown afaik. is it harder than mjlonir? probably. how much harder? beats me. the real question for me is could he damage it enough before the disintegration beams takes him out? i don't think so. but i don't think a straight h2h battle is necessarily a foregone conclusion though is all's i'm saying.
Five gets you ten Mjolnir is superior to any of the Serpents weapons.
Even if the Hulk can damage the Destroyer Armor, it should ultimately be irrelevant. With it's incredibly powerful molecular manipulation, it can heal any damage. For example, once it absorbed a new life, it recreated itself instantaneously from the melted slag left by the Celestials as the armor was created to be unstoppable. I also like that arc because it demonstrates how incredibly versatile the armor is, something sometimes forgotten. It's like a living Mjolnir or a more powerful Surfer.
Recently the Destroyer demonstrated even reality warping abilities. Besides that, it can also draw on far more power than like all the Hulks ever put together.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Five gets you ten Mjolnir is superior to any of the Serpents weapons.Even if the Hulk can damage the Destroyer Armor, it should ultimately be irrelevant. With it's incredibly powerful molecular manipulation, it can heal any damage. For example, once it absorbed a new life, it recreated itself instantaneously from the melted slag left by the Celestials as the armor was created to be unstoppable. I also like that arc because it demonstrates how incredibly versatile the armor is, something sometimes forgotten. It's like a living Mjolnir or a more powerful Surfer.
Recently the Destroyer demonstrated even reality warping abilities. Besides that, it can also draw on far more power than like all the Hulks ever put together.
That is a far far stretch saying that the destroy can draw on more power than all the hulks
The cosmic hulk has the power of the Automation Cosmos
The blue hulk is powered with the uni Force and can destroy the destroyer I believe!
The Red Hulk is cosmicly powered and beaten by cosmic, but still I think he be the best normal non powered up hulk to fight the destroyer and win!
Now the most logical choice in a stirrings is NUL
And I personally think if the destroyer shot his be beam NUL enchantment would like counter it... It wouldn't stop the hammer nor slow the breaker of worlds hulk down...
It be enchantment vs enchantment....
My original speculation was if the serpent was so interested in picking the hulk with NUL
He could undo it
And pick a stronger hulk and enchant him
Actually with that same logic serpent could just capture cosmic robotic hulk and actually enchant him since he is a inanimate object like the destroyer and make him just as enchanted as the destroyer to beat him cause he can give him NUL as well as the enchantment he would be cosmicly powered not celestial powered which in the marvel verse cosmic is above celestial as only cosmic beings survived the big bang so if a cosmic being can undo the creation of a celestial being I think they are weak....
I compare them to the Santa clause logic
He is real or strong because people believe in his power
And most celestials come from another multi verse that was created by the universal guardians when they made GALACTUS eternity and death themselves to be a new universe....
Odin was born... Hence he can be created therefore uncreated
Thor was a boy and became a man he was created hence can be uncreated....
My point plan and simple is cosmic trumps celestial and enchantment and if he fights a cosmicly charged hulk he will lose of the cosmic power is so great it drawfs the destroyer.... That is my point andnim sticking to it
Hulk is hulk
He beat destroyer once before
He has more battle experience hand to hand wise his fight list is almost all of marvel and some of dc
He wins experience points
Cosmic hulk wins power points
Nul hulk wins the my enchantment beats your enchantment or makes it null and void lol they are a tie
Hulks main power is his ability to have no limits when mad ao if he got mad enough hulk my rip the destroyer apart
ODIN ENCHANTED THORS HAMMER OF OLD TO JEVER BE LIFTED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN THOR
BUT HULK PICKED IT UPIN HULK VS THOR AND THREW IT ACROSS THE WORLD
SO HULK HAS BEATEN ODIN ENCHANTMENTS MAD BEFORE SHOWING IT FEATS AS YOU ALL LIKE HE CAN BEAT ENCHANTMENT
ALSO HE DID BREAK THE HAMMER SO HE CAN DAMAGE ENCHANTED OBJECTS
Hulk beats the destroyer
He is also and irreplaceable character in marvel story lone so in that feat he would have to beat destroyer by being a fan fav eventually he may get hit and hit and for a few comics lose but in the end he would beat him
Here is another speculation of writers writing impossible cool things that could happen
Hulk and Thor are having lunch
Loki tricks the destroyer to kill Thor why he is eating a chicken wing with hulk talking about that last avenger fight
Destroyer knocks Thor down and unconscious
HULK IS REGULAR HULK AND SEES HIS FRIENDBHURT GOES APE POOP CRAZY AND SINCE HE DID IT BEFORE HE CAN DO IT AGAIN AND ODIN SEEINGNTHE DESTROYER KILLINGBHIS SON HELPS MORE.... HULK PICKS UP THORS HAMMER AGAIN
AND THEN ODIN GRANTS HIM THE ENCHANTED POWER OF THOR
SO NOW WHAT
THE DESTROYER LOSES
EVEN IF HE DIDN'T GET THE POWER OF THOR AND PICKED UP THE HAMMER HE ONLY NEED A LIKE METAL DENSITY OR OBJECT TO BASH THE DESTROYER INTO PIECES DIAMONDS BREAK DIAMONDS... HE CAN PICK UP THORS HAMMER AND IF HE DID THE BEAM GETS DEFLECTED LIKE THOR DOES N NOT HE HAS A DENSE ENOUGH OBJECT TO BEAT THE DESTROYER TO A PULP....
ALSO STARK COULD MSKE THE HULK A SUIT OF ARMOR OUTTA SOMETHING RARE JUST TO WITHSTAND THE BEAM N ENCHANT HIS ABILITIES
IRON HULK OR WHATEVER
LOTS OF LOTS OF SPECULATION AND WAYS HULK BEATS DESTROYER BESIDE THE WAY HE ALREADY BEAT HIM
AND IT DEPENDS ON WHICH HULK HE FIGHTS... UNI POWERED COSMIC POWERED NORMAL GAAMA POWERED OR GREY AND SMART HULK....
NOW IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HULK WITH INTELLEGENCE HE SIMPLY OJT POWER AND OUT SMART HIM
HULK BEATS DESTROYER BECAUSE HULK BEAT DESTROYER
IM STICKING TO IT
Originally posted by Kingzeus
That is a far far stretch saying that the destroy can draw on more power than all the hulksThe cosmic hulk has the power of the Automation Cosmos
The blue hulk is powered with the uni Force and can destroy the destroyer I believe!
The Red Hulk is cosmicly powered and beaten by cosmic, but still I think he be the best normal non powered up hulk to fight the destroyer and win!
Now the most logical choice in a stirrings is NUL
And I personally think if the destroyer shot his be beam NUL enchantment would like counter it... It wouldn't stop the hammer nor slow the breaker of worlds hulk down...
It be enchantment vs enchantment....
My original speculation was if the serpent was so interested in picking the hulk with NUL
He could undo it
And pick a stronger hulk and enchant him
Actually with that same logic serpent could just capture cosmic robotic hulk and actually enchant him since he is a inanimate object like the destroyer and make him just as enchanted as the destroyer to beat him cause he can give him NUL as well as the enchantment he would be cosmicly powered not celestial powered which in the marvel verse cosmic is above celestial as only cosmic beings survived the big bang so if a cosmic being can undo the creation of a celestial being I think they are weak....
I compare them to the Santa clause logic
He is real or strong because people believe in his power
And most celestials come from another multi verse that was created by the universal guardians when they made GALACTUS eternity and death themselves to be a new universe....
Odin was born... Hence he can be created therefore uncreated
Thor was a boy and became a man he was created hence can be uncreated....
My point plan and simple is cosmic trumps celestial and enchantment and if he fights a cosmicly charged hulk he will lose of the cosmic power is so great it drawfs the destroyer.... That is my point andnim sticking to it
Hulk is hulk
He beat destroyer once before
He has more battle experience hand to hand wise his fight list is almost all of marvel and some of dc
He wins experience points
Cosmic hulk wins power points
Nul hulk wins the my enchantment beats your enchantment or makes it null and void lol they are a tie
Hulks main power is his ability to have no limits when mad ao if he got mad enough hulk my rip the destroyer apart
ODIN ENCHANTED THORS HAMMER OF OLD TO JEVER BE LIFTED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN THOR
BUT HULK PICKED IT UPIN HULK VS THOR AND THREW IT ACROSS THE WORLD
SO HULK HAS BEATEN ODIN ENCHANTMENTS MAD BEFORE SHOWING IT FEATS AS YOU ALL LIKE HE CAN BEAT ENCHANTMENT
ALSO HE DID BREAK THE HAMMER SO HE CAN DAMAGE ENCHANTED OBJECTS
Hulk beats the destroyer
He is also and irreplaceable character in marvel story lone so in that feat he would have to beat destroyer by being a fan fav eventually he may get hit and hit and for a few comics lose but in the end he would beat him
Here is another speculation of writers writing impossible cool things that could happen
Hulk and Thor are having lunch
Loki tricks the destroyer to kill Thor why he is eating a chicken wing with hulk talking about that last avenger fight
Destroyer knocks Thor down and unconscious
HULK IS REGULAR HULK AND SEES HIS FRIENDBHURT GOES APE POOP CRAZY AND SINCE HE DID IT BEFORE HE CAN DO IT AGAIN AND ODIN SEEINGNTHE DESTROYER KILLINGBHIS SON HELPS MORE.... HULK PICKS UP THORS HAMMER AGAIN
AND THEN ODIN GRANTS HIM THE ENCHANTED POWER OF THORSO NOW WHAT
THE DESTROYER LOSES
EVEN IF HE DIDN'T GET THE POWER OF THOR AND PICKED UP THE HAMMER HE ONLY NEED A LIKE METAL DENSITY OR OBJECT TO BASH THE DESTROYER INTO PIECES DIAMONDS BREAK DIAMONDS... HE CAN PICK UP THORS HAMMER AND IF HE DID THE BEAM GETS DEFLECTED LIKE THOR DOES N NOT HE HAS A DENSE ENOUGH OBJECT TO BEAT THE DESTROYER TO A PULP....
ALSO STARK COULD MSKE THE HULK A SUIT OF ARMOR OUTTA SOMETHING RARE JUST TO WITHSTAND THE BEAM N ENCHANT HIS ABILITIES
IRON HULK OR WHATEVER
LOTS OF LOTS OF SPECULATION AND WAYS HULK BEATS DESTROYER BESIDE THE WAY HE ALREADY BEAT HIM
AND IT DEPENDS ON WHICH HULK HE FIGHTS... UNI POWERED COSMIC POWERED NORMAL GAAMA POWERED OR GREY AND SMART HULK....
NOW IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HULK WITH INTELLEGENCE HE SIMPLY OJT POWER AND OUT SMART HIM
HULK BEATS DESTROYER BECAUSE HULK BEAT DESTROYER
IM STICKING TO IT
seriously, you need to write less. no offense, but almost no one reads textwalls like the ones you post at times. 😬
Originally posted by leonidas
seriously, you need to write less. no offense, but almost no one reads textwalls like the ones you post at times. 😬
Oh I'm sorry
I didn't realize the text bases forum with less then 700 words was only for short dumb thoughtout random pointless thoughts and only short attention spands
Ok I'll just go back to another forum where people appreciate more than
Hulk wins
THANOS wins
And didn't read to long....
Lol
SMH
Why are comic readers telling me I post to much content for their eyes lol
This is soooo funny
Are you guys like saying without pictures you have little interest in reading?
Or you think I'm just talking out my bum.. (retoricle)
Why people don't do forums anymore that much....
No content no real interest in reading and logic just one liners and seven word post lol...
Sad really... Why MSN LOST ALL IT'S GROUPS and no longer host them!
Originally posted by Kingzeus
Oh I'm sorryI didn't realize the text bases forum with less then 700 words was only for short dumb thoughtout random pointless thoughts and only short attention spands
Ok I'll just go back to another forum where people appreciate more than
Hulk wins
THANOS wins
And didn't read to long....
Lol
SMH
Why are comic readers telling me I post to much content for their eyes lol
This is soooo funny
Are you guys like saying without pictures you have little interest in reading?
Or you think I'm just talking out my bum.. (retoricle)
Why people don't do forums anymore that much....
No content no real interest in reading and logic just one liners and seven word post lol...
Sad really... Why MSN LOST ALL IT'S GROUPS and no longer host them!
😂
or.... people have better things to do than spend 15 minutes trying to read through a wall of text discussing fictional battles between fictional comicbook characters. 😐
but if others' appreciate it more than we do, welllllllll....... bye. 🙂